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i flew f-4's for half a tour and was a grunt for the other half.
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Thank you for your service.
mike24d20
12-27-2010, 06:44
Why the BFD an blank ammo? Was it a live fire drill? First pic. Also how did the Pig work for you?
Michaelp
12-27-2010, 07:50
How does one go from a pilot in the air force to an infantryman?
I did 4 years, infantry and SF.
RVN 68-70.
Just curious.
Griff Murphey
12-27-2010, 08:54
FAC? Otherwise known as "ALO??"
cwartyman
12-28-2010, 03:36
All Marine Pilots are required to do tours with the grunts in an Air liaison role. After all who knows the capabilities of the aircraft better than the pilots that fly them and it also provides a different picture for the pilot as they know what its like to be on the end needing the support and why it has to be put where it is needed. In 5 years active duty with a squadron never saw a 2nd lt. Only time ive met a boot brown bar outside of boot camp was on range 214 at Pendleton. By the time they have been selected for pilot training they have been promoted to 1st lt and have already done some platoon time.
AH! Burning honey buckets, a duty I know well.
Why the BFD an blank ammo? Was it a live fire drill? First pic. Also how did the Pig work for you?
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good catch, mike
that photo was taken at the basic school at quantico in 1968.
the basic school is where marine officers learn to be grunts ....even if they're gonna be airdales.
me and jim horn to my left.
here's me and jim (retired fbi) at a 40 year reunion in '08
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How does one go from a pilot in the air force to an infantryman?
I did 4 years, infantry and SF.
RVN 68-70.
Just curious.
i never was in the air force,
marines can do anything,Michaelp.
:)
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FAC? Otherwise known as "ALO??"
correct you are griff.
here's some air strike/naval gunfire photos
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cwartyman
12-28-2010, 03:16
Goo,
Is that a Bronze Star I see in your medals? If so you have to tell how you got it as you dont get those in the Corps without the combat V.
Mack
USMC 1988-1995
its got a v....and the ph (2 ea.) has a star. btw, i was in 314 in 69-70. (f-4b's)
http://www.jouster.com/forums/showthread.php?14371-Why-obama-will-never-understand-the-Marines-!!!&p=106885#post106885
Griff Murphey
12-28-2010, 08:41
Ahh Range 214 at Camp Horno! Over lunch I would throw on utilities or just wear my khakis with my shooting coat and run up and join whoever was shooting at 500 on 214. The M-1 was very weird and old in 1975, and got lots of comments. There was also rec fire once a week, all the .45 and .38 (usually wadcutters) you and your wife could shoot away. Halcyon days!
My commander at the dental clinic was a former Marine Helo driver bearded peacenik Navy CDR (DC) USN. Hated me and my guns and utilities. Only bad OER I got.
cwartyman
12-29-2010, 04:09
Goo,
Thank you for your service to this great country and your heroism in RVN that resulted in your Bronze Star. I was a Black Knight from 89-92 as an aviation electrician. If you are on Facebook there is a 314 site open to all Black Knights present and past. Would love to see you over there. Once A Knight Is Never Enough. Semper Fi. Without those willing to go into harms way we would not have the freedoms we enjoy. Many enjoy those freedoms but those that have been in harms way know that they are not free they are paid with the blood of those who went and those who did not come back. I do believe that this country would be socially better if every male at age of 18 or the completion of high school had to do at least 2 years mandatory military service. No deferments unless you are enrolled in an ROTC program or a military academy.
Mack
USMC 1988-1995
cwartyman
12-29-2010, 04:23
Griff,
Having to go to range 214 was a PITA for us in El Toro it meant being at the armory to draw weapons at 0400 on the bus at 0500 and then going to Pendelton shooting pulling butts then policing the range and a bus ride back to El Toro then cleaning the weapon until it passed the armorers q-tip inspection which usually meant getting out of there at about 2000 to 2100. Used to try and cheat on the way back by using carb cleaner to get rid of the carbon fouling cause clp just didnt do it.
Mack
USMC 1988-1995
Griff Murphey
12-29-2010, 05:03
When I was at Horno five of the dental techs wanted to learn to shoot and qualify. I found a unit that would loan us rifles and I went to Range Control and they let me borrow a PRC-25 to contact them. I was (before going to dental school and tranferring to the Navy) an Army ROTC commissioned 2LT so I could use a radio. I taught them to shoot on a 25 M BZO range then found a Gunny who would open a little 200 yard range which I think was part of 214 and we shot the Navy Qual course, and my guys pulled their own butts and we shot the little 4 position Navy deal at 200. I used my personal Colt SP-1 AR-15. When we cleaned our guns the armorer asked me to check it in and wondered if I had not forgotten to turn it in as I left with it. I would guess, sadly, that having a personal AR-15 at Camp Pendleton or even just in the State of California is not now possible. Another funny story; I took that PRC-25 into my apartment and ran into a drinking buddy in the hallway, Major Egan. He says, "Doc, what're you doin' with that g'damn radio!? You don't know how to use that thing!" So I plopped it down and started teaching a class on the PRC-25. He says (with some astonishment) "Hunh!! You DO know how to use it...." RE: "cleaning"; I will say, when you turned in a Marine Corps gun, they were pretty persnickety about "carbon." They said the hot gasses swirled around it and eroded metal.
mike24d20
12-29-2010, 03:15
One of the major problems with the M-15/16 system, carbon buildup. In the arms room we used a electric drill with a M-14 chamber brush too clean the wep. also along with a lot of bore cleaner. An in basic we were all taught how too use the Prc-25 or we did not qual an got extra KP. Good to see they are now building a piston upper for the rifle.
prc-25? that's modern technology. you guys probably never heard of a double-e- eight.
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one communicator to another upon eyeballing a pretty young thing,
" I'd eat a mile of comm wire just to hear her fart on a double-e-eight."
Dan In Indiana
12-29-2010, 08:31
Worked on a bunch of EE-8's down in Chu Lai, SB22's, SB86's, PRC6's, never taught how to work on them, had to rely on guys who had been there for a while to teach me the ropes as they quit instructing on them at Dago a few months before I started school there. And it goes, "I'd lay 10 miles of comm wire through broken Budweiser bottle just to hear her fart over a EE8". Jeez, officers! Can't shoot'em, just have to put up with them.
Mag-12 Comm, Tech Shop
Chu Lai by the Sea
9-67/1-69
Griff Murphey
12-29-2010, 08:50
10's and 6's - you might as well send smoke signals. When they worked (as in WHEN) the range was incredibly short and battery life measured in hours. We had some of those old sound power phones for the range at the Fort Worth Rifle and Pistol Club. 100% reliable pit com over WD-1 wire.
re: "I'd lay 10 miles of comm wire through broken Budweiser bottle just to hear her fart over a EE8". Jeez, officers! Can't shoot'em, just have to put up with them."
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"i'd drag my b*lls across a mile of burning sand in the desert just to smell the tire tracks from the laundry truck that took her dirty skivies away."
Dan In Indiana
12-30-2010, 08:37
You might just be a keeper after all.
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