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Danny
03-04-2012, 10:28
Which, if any, of the Yugo Mausers are true '98 pattern? What about the M24/47?

Danny

spanner1751
03-04-2012, 02:55
The M24/47 and M48 actions are about 1/4 in. shorter than the standard K98k action. You can find Yugo '98 mausers built on the WWII German action, look for "Mod 98" on the left side of the receiver in addition to the Cyrillic letters. German markings should have been scrubbed from the receiver and replaced with the Yugoslavian crest.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6954571741_48f6f02160_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14548240@N06/6954571741/)
Yugo 98k (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14548240@N06/6954571741/) by Spanner1751 (http://www.flickr.com/people/14548240@N06/), on Flickr

Here is some more info on Yugoslavian Mausers:

http://www.marstar.ca/yugo-M1.htm

dave
03-05-2012, 06:41
They are all 98 Model Mausers. The 98 model was the final effort of the Mauser Company, the the final design improvment. The original Mauser works made 98 actions in several lengths, standard (for the Mauser line of military cartridges, 7.92, 7, 7.65, ). Two of the improvments were the 'large ring' and the staggered box magazine. They made a magnum length for larger hunting rifles and even a short length for small cartridges such as .22 Hornet and many european cal. The so-called imtermediate length was used by FN in their Mod. 1924 only. This is what Yugo adopted and is carried over to their 1948 design. I do not think Mauser ever made that length. The FN model 1930 was a standard length. All bolt action sporters built in the US and most of the world to-day are 98 Mauser design. Even WW11 jap rifles are of basic Mauser design. So when you ask about a '98 Mauser' you must be very specific about which one you speak!

Art
03-05-2012, 03:31
Excellent explanation, dave.

jon_norstog
03-05-2012, 05:11
AND, there were small-ring '98s. Notably the Mexican Mauser, but also some BRNO-made as well. They are **nice**.

jn

dave
03-06-2012, 07:20
Yes, I forgot those, however the large ring was one of the selling points of the 98 design. There were several small rings, WW1 Kar.98a's and the vz-33, 33/40., etc. The large ring is a bit of over kill in my estimation. The Swed 96, a small ring, has been chambered in 9x63, 9.3 x63 and several other larger cartridges, by the factory in sporting rifles. The '03 is basicly a small ring altho not really of 98 design, (more 93-96) sort of a bastard to get around patent infringment (which did not work) cost 200,000.

Calfed
03-06-2012, 08:34
The Yugoslavians also issued a model 24/52C, which is a full-length, large ring Mausers. I believe they were refurbished from existing stocks of Czech VZ24's, much like the 24/47 had been refurbished from existing stocks of the intermediate length M24's.