Navy Krag ammo belt

[Derrick R.]

A gentleman show me this belt . Was wondering if it indeed was a navy krag belt and what would a guess be on price ?
Thanks Derrick

[dave]

Never saw one like that! The loops seem to be irregular sizes??

[m1ashooter]

Its possible. Did you happen to see any stamps on the back. Check out ebay under krag mills belts for further help.

[Derrick R.]

The belt is stamped with the bullet and mills logo. The loops are just folded over they are the same size. Did not notice a patent date on the metal, just said anson mills and the city.

[JBinIll]

http://www.19thcenturyweapons.com/608/wwinavybelt.html

[raymeketa]

Check the loops for cartridge fit. That belt is circa 1905-1910 and was supposedly for the Krag cartridges, not the 45-70 as the above link suggested. The Navy was still armed with the Krag rifle during that time. So, if they used an older rifle to "release the '03 Springfields for WWI combat" it would have been the Krag. And, WWI wasn't until 5 to 10 years later.

Look to see if the buttons on yours are dated.

JMHO

Ray

[Derrick R.]

Thanks for the replys. I will check the buttons. The guy wants less than $100 fpr the belt so I might go ahead and pick it up.
Derrick

[JBinIll]

Buy it,buy it now.LOL If you really want to know what it is post your pictures over here http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ There are some advanced Mills collectors over there that could tell you exactly what it is and when used.That's not a run of the mill belt.Ordinary Mills M1910 web belts for the 03 bring a $100 and up and they're everywhere.

[JBinIll]

Go to post number 5-


The next belt to be adopted ia one which no one has ever found any documetatioon for. It is a looped belt with the addition of a storm flap. The number of rounds carried is quire large for a purely defensive weapon.The later revolver belts and the pistol belt of 1912 have considerably less rounds xarried with them, and 24 rounds for the ,45 revolver Model of 1909 in the belt and six in the cylinder, and 21 for the pistol, Model od 1911 in three magazines, two in the magazine pocket and seven in the pistol. The trend of reducing the number of rounds carried is obvious.
As to the Navy iaauw storm flap belt, they are said to have appeared circa 1900. One theory is that ths design is not a revolver belt at all but is a gunners's belt for carrying primers to be used with guns with seperate loading of shells and bag powder.
Here is one for your observation. All the surviving specimens I havw seen in thw last forty some years have been in unused condition and the color is distinctly more bleached looking than the natural shade.


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