NM rear sight question

[boykin]

Have a GI NM that ia correctly marked, SA, T NM etc. Question is that it has an adjustable rear sight marked 30- Mar on the right side. Info appreciated. Thanks

[Duane Hansen]

Can you show pictures? Are you sure it doesn't say BOMAR ? Maybe the B is worn and looks like a 3.

[Johnny P]

Bomar wouldn't be original either. Those used were Micro, Triangle, Elliason, and Kensight.

[Duane Hansen]

Bomar wouldn't be original either. Those used were Micro, Triangle, Elliason, and Kensight.

Just throwing out suggestions to try and answer a question. I made no reference as to whether this would be original or not.

[boykin]

Duane, it is a weak struck B. This is an early gun with last 4 of SN on slide and STIPPLED front strap 57-58. Didn't start the Micro til the 60's I think.

[Johnny P]

Just throwing out suggestions to try and answer a question. I made no reference as to whether this would be original or not.

Since there was no mention of a Bomar not being an original sight, I just thought I would go ahead and add that. Too much information?

[Duane Hansen]

Perhaps.

Nah.....I was just messin with you. I always value what you have to say. Thanks Johnny......

[Johnny P]

A 1960 NM rear sight.

http://i50.tinypic.com/aaax6h.jpg

[Duane Hansen]

Have a GI NM that ia correctly marked, SA, T NM etc. Question is that it has an adjustable rear sight marked 30- Mar on the right side. Info appreciated. Thanks

It sounds to me like your pistol may be one that someone set up as a Bulls Eye Pistol rather than it actually being a legit National Match pistol. Pictures?

[boykin]

Duane and Johnny, I just spoke with an old friend in his 80's who worked on and shot the NM 1911A1s. He said the Micro sights won't worth a damn and frequently broke. When a match pistol came in to the armory with a broken Micro, they replaced it with a Bo-Mar. That probably explains why one of my NMs has the BO-MAR rear sight.

[Johnny P]

The Springfield Armory pistols were rebuilt every year for the Camp Perry National Matches in order that each shooter that drew a pistol was using the latest technology. The Micro sights were used for two years, with only the Triangle sight being used longer, three years. If there were a "fatal flaw" in the Micro sights it would have been found in the first year of use. Ruger successfully used the Micro sight on the target models for many years.

[boykin]

This old fellow has a drawer full of broken micro sights. He is giving me a blade I need for mine. What you are saying is "in the books", but this old fellow was there, did that, and has the tee shirt!

[Johnny P]

How about a picture of a drawer full of broken Micro sights? That should be a sight. The information on the NM pistols comes from Springfield archives, and not someone's recollections.

[boykin]

I am driving down Monday and will take a pict with my cell phone and email it to you. I don't know how to post on the web. Email address? He also has a number of the other sights you mentioned. When something broke he kept the parts and it has paid off over the years. He is a treasure trove of info on mil small arms from WW2 to beyond VN and has drawers and drawers of parts,and a library of TMs FMs etc As well as letters to and from various small armes boards.

[Johnny P]

Did you ever wonder what happened to the old sights when they upgraded to the newer sights on the NM pistols? They weren't broken, just replaced.

[boykin]

Don't know. I know Rock Island sold a bunch of stuff including Redfield mounts for the A4 sniper for the huge sum of 5 cents per pound back in the '60s.

[boykin]

By the way, reading the NM bulletin 1967 from Camp Perry states that several adjustable sights,including the Bo-Mar were used on the NM1911A1 Fact verified by one who was there