picked up M1917 today [Archive] - Jouster2 Shooting Forums

p246

06-18-2013, 07:32

While back posted some P14 and M1917 questions. Bought the 1917 and got it today. Nice strong bore clean undamaged muzzle. Red paint residue on barrel end of stock. English broad arrow stamps on receiver and stock. Rack number on stock. Initial impressions are good. Should have time to shoot tomorrow. Took a couple pics.

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/IMG_20130618_211002.jpg
http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/IMG_20130618_211037.jpg

p246

06-18-2013, 07:34

Pics with tablet not great will break out camera this weekend.

Ltdave

06-19-2013, 08:02

i got one last year...

ive not even hardly worked the action. just no time to shoot for fun...

its got some chrome plated parts i need to have stripped but i need to learn how to break it down first...

its got a 1 groove barrel on it that dates right and doesnt look too bad (if i recall lol)...

George in NH

06-19-2013, 12:36

Hmmmm.......if my memory works correctly, M1917's can have a varied number of lands and
grooves depending on either original barrel or a replacement barrel. Also, I seem to remember that the original twist is five lands and grooves and a left hand twist. HTH. George in NH

p246

06-19-2013, 08:52

Okay went to range with this M1917 along with other rifles. Per previous owner he has owned since early 1990s and never shot it. Shot off bag at 100. First group of 5 was three inches, I was like not bad but not great. Cleaned barrel real good. Next 3 groups of 5 was 2 inches, 2.30 inches, and 2 inches this Made me happy. I was shooting 69 Lake City M2 ball.

The stock is oil soaked. Sitting in the sun today it was bleeding oil. I'm going to work on that this week. Good day at the range today.

Richard H Brown Jr

06-20-2013, 02:33

http://www.surplusrifle.com/m1917/index.asp Front page for M1917. Pages for Disassembly and reassembly of the rifle and the bolt.

RHB

p246

06-20-2013, 04:32

Thanks Richard been awhile since I broke an M1918 down you save me a Google search.

p246

06-20-2013, 03:48

Marks I've found so far..I'll get pics tomorrow. English broad arrow on rear sight protector, right side of stock, bottom of stock in front of palm swell. In same area of palm swell is what I call the rectangular tower stamp. In font of that is number 11. Flaming bomb on left side of receiver and bolt handle.Letter K on bolt handle with matching serial number (1113124). Flaming bomb on barrel with 9-18 under it. R on front sight base.E on safety with other unknown stamp. E on bolt shroad and EN on bolt. There is another stamp on bolt but I can't make it out. That's what I found so far.

p246

06-20-2013, 03:50

John Sukey

06-20-2013, 07:22

Of course you know why there was red paint on the stock

p246

06-20-2013, 10:09

Of course you know why there was red paint on the stock

Yes sir, Brits slapped it on to let troops know it was 30-06 not. 303 P-14. I noticed a little white paint on front of hand guard by receiver. That I can't explain.

Richard H Brown Jr

06-21-2013, 05:17

Don't fire til you see the white in their eyes?

White towards enemy good, red towards enemy *BAD*?

RHB

p246

06-21-2013, 12:54

I want to pull old oil that's bleeding out of stock. I usually wrapped in toilet paper or paper towels, put stock in greenhouse for a few hours then wipe down with denatured alcohol. However I'd like to keep what paint is on it. I wonder if D.A. would take the paint off. I'm not sure what the Brits used but I heard it was cheap oil base. Any one know.

p246

06-21-2013, 04:21

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/026-1.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/026-1.jpg.html)
Alright got good pics today. This is muzzle end of stock with red paint still showing.

p246

06-21-2013, 04:24

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/018.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/018.jpg.html)
This is white paint residue on back of hand guard by receiver

p246

06-21-2013, 04:25

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/017.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/017.jpg.html)
E marked bolt release

p246

06-21-2013, 04:26

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/016.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/016.jpg.html)
Flaming bomb on left side of receiver

p246

06-21-2013, 04:28

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/015.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/015.jpg.html)
Mark on top of receiver above flaming bomb. I think this a foreign proof mark but correct me if I'm wrong

p246

06-21-2013, 04:29

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/014.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/014.jpg.html)

p246

06-21-2013, 04:30

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/013.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/013.jpg.html)
Bolt handle stamps

p246

06-21-2013, 04:30

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/012.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/012.jpg.html)
Safety stamps

p246

06-21-2013, 04:34

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/019-1.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/019-1.jpg.html)
9-18 barrel stamps

p246

06-21-2013, 04:35

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/020.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/020.jpg.html)
R marked front sight base

p246

06-21-2013, 04:38

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/023-1.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/023-1.jpg.html)
So is this a C around the broad arrow if so this would be Canadian lend lease right.

p246

06-21-2013, 04:42

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/022.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/022.jpg.html)
Import marks

p246

06-21-2013, 04:44

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/021.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/021.jpg.html)
Rack number

p246

06-21-2013, 04:46

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/011.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/011.jpg.html)
Stock cartouches on bottom in front of palm swell

p246

06-21-2013, 04:47

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/010.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/010.jpg.html)
Stock cartouche on right side of stock

p246

06-21-2013, 04:49

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af257/p246/025-1.jpg (http://s1013.photobucket.com/user/p246/media/025-1.jpg.html)
Action screws still staked in

p246

06-21-2013, 04:54

So questions
Am I right that this was Canadian Lend Lease
If action screws still staked was that done at factory or in field
Did Canadians put white paint on M1917's and what did that represent
What's the proof mark in the 5th picture I posted, its also on stock and safety.

Thanks much.

jaie5070

06-21-2013, 06:29

Your rifle was definately in canada. Mine only has one "C" and broad arrow on the stock. I don't know anything about white paint. The proof marks are styleized/art deco eagle heads.
john

p246

06-21-2013, 09:33

Thanks John, I see the Eagles head now that you say that. Does your make and Serial number on receiver have white paint in them like mine?