The latest ed. of Poyer and Reisch's M1911 book?

[Rick the Librarian]

I hope I'm not stepping on any toes, here, but I seem to recall some negative comments about previous editions of Poyer and Reisch's book by North Cape on the M1911 - one reason I never purchased it.

I looked and noticed a 2nd edition with Karl Karash as one of the editors. Any feedback, plus or minus, on this edition? I admit that Poyer (from his M1903 book) sort of leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but did Karl's addition as an editor, raise the quality of the book?

[Scott Gahimer]

I believe Karl was a contributing editor for the 1st Poyer book on .45s, too. Karl's contributions certainly improved the book over what it might have been without him. It still isn't the book I reach for if I need an answer, but is a book in my library.

[Rick the Librarian]

THE book still being Clawson's book from a few years back? :D

[1563621]

YES!

[blocker]

I refust to buy anything written by Poyer.

[joepoyer]

Rick, to show that there are no hard feelings about your comments regarding my books in the past, send me a mailing address and I will send you a copy of the M1911 book. You can ignore it or review as you like.
Joe Poyer ncape@ix.netcom.com

[Shooter5]

It's just fine. It is affordable and available.

[gbethu]

Your book is absolutely first class.

[usmc69]

I have Clawsen's big and little books , Meadow's books (1 & 2) and Poyer's book. I usually look at all three. Then I ask Ken Hill.

[Duane Hansen]

Although I look to Clawson's books as my final authority, there a some facts and figures in Poyer's Book that is very good reference material too. All .45 Auto Books are good, some are just better. IMO

[Johnny P]

Just my opinion, but bad information is worse than no information. If you are familiar with Donald Bady's Colt Automatic Pistols your are probably aware of his information on the Model of 1911 USMC pistols: "A total of 8787 pistols were furnished with the Marine Corps marking." Probably most here have seen a MODEL OF 1911 U.S.M.C., but no one has seen a real one.

He also goes into detail on how Springfield Armory resumed Model 1911 pistol production in early 1918, and delivered 45,000 pistols between February and June of 1918. These pistols were assigned serial numbers between 310000 and 355000, and goes on to explain that examples are known in the 317000 and 338000 range, substantiating the magnitude of serial numbers used.

Many of the old serial number lists assigned serial numbers 958101 to 1088725 to US&S. This works out to 130,625 US&S pistols, but apparently some did not do their math. (Bady got this one correct.) About 30 years ago there was an ad in the Shotgun News or Gun List for as new US&S replacement slides (with the M 1911A1 U.S. ARMY) marking on the right side. More than a few pistols in the 958101 to 1041404 serial number range had their original slides removed and replaced with the US&S slides, and the incorrect serial number lists showed that they were US&S pistols.

[Duane Hansen]

You are right Johnny, poor choice of words on my part. Not all .45 ACP books are good. I should have added a qualifier. I should have kept my comparison strictly between Clawson's book and Poyer's book.