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miss.t
07-28-2013, 08:36
Just got this sporter, thought it was cool. Springfield 1903, still chambered in 30.06. Just trying to get an idea who did the work. Not markings of any kind on barrel. Haven't taken it out of the wood yet. Extremely well down takedown system. Other unusual feature is a lock on the front sight hood. Any guesses who could have done the work?

miss.t
07-28-2013, 08:41
more pics

Fred
07-28-2013, 09:19
Wow! I think that rifle is right up there in quality with a Griffin and Howe. It probably originally came with a leather carrying case with acutrements.

Herschel
07-28-2013, 09:55
That rifle looks like those made by Barney Worthen but Michael Petrov has identified it as being made by August Pachmayr in his post below.

Michael Petrov
07-28-2013, 10:06
Can you post a picture of the "Boss" on the right side of the receiver? The serial number would also help.

Handsome Devil
07-28-2013, 10:20
That is pretty cool. Have no idea of value or history, but quite a rifle regardless. That would of peaked my interest had I found it. Thanks for posting, even if I am clueless to what it is! Regards, John.

miss.t
07-28-2013, 11:08
Pic of right side of receiver. Do these guns have any collector's value? Can't see to find any for sale on the net. Hope I didn't pay too much. Still, I like it. Read up some on the gun maker, thanks for the info.

Michael Petrov
07-28-2013, 11:11
I will be away from my computer for the better part of today and did want to keep you hanging. I still would like to see what I asked about. Your rifle was made by August Pachmayr of Los Angeles, California. August was one of the better makers and a sporter made by him is very desirable. Congratulations on a super find.

You were posting while I was typing, yes August made your rifle. Collector value................you bet.

" Hope I didn't pay too much." you did not ;-).

miss.t
07-28-2013, 11:16
I am grateful for your help and don't want to sound ignorant but what is a "boss". More than glad to take a pic.

Michael Petrov
07-28-2013, 11:17
I am grateful for your help and don't want to sound ignorant but what is a "boss". More than glad to take a pic.

It's what you took a picture of, Boss is my word for that thing that sticks out on the right side. See how is has been rounded off and reshaped compared to a normal 1903.

Jeff L
07-28-2013, 11:39
Nice rifle!

miss.t
07-28-2013, 11:53
OK. Mr. Petrov, Do you really have his records? Read it on another talk board.

Michael Petrov
07-28-2013, 02:11
OK. Mr. Petrov, Do you really have his records? Read it on another talk board.

I have a copy of his shop book from 1913-1922. Your Springfield was made around 1922 so it may be in there. When I have time I'll take a look. I sent you a message with my email and if you don't mind I would like to get some bigger pictures of your rifle for my files.

There is a chapter in my new book (Vol-Two) on Pachmayr I should have them by the end of August.

Michael Petrov
07-31-2013, 09:12
Anymore Pachmayr questions for any of the members here?

My Pachmayrs top to bottom,

August Take-Down
August
Frank


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Jim in Salt Lake
08-01-2013, 09:23
The bottom rifle, Frank, has what looks like a gold colored extractor, trigger too. Was this some kind of plating? I have a 1903 that I bought as mildly sporterized. It was all military except for a cut down stock with recoil pad and a side mounted Weaver 330. My side mount looks like the one on Frank, can you tell me who made it? All these rifles are beauties, I keep looking, one of these days I'll find one.

Rick the Librarian
08-01-2013, 11:09
Michael's rifles are contagious -- I kept drooling over his beautiful pictures until one day, a Griffen & Howe-modified NRA Sporter showed up!! We need to hold him personally responsible for the resulting lapse in moral and financial judgement caused by posting these pictures!! :D

(By the way, his book, "Custom Gunmakers of the 20th Century" is a wonderful book on this subject and I recommend it highly!)

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Michael Petrov
08-01-2013, 06:22
The bottom rifle, Frank, has what looks like a gold colored extractor, trigger too. Was this some kind of plating? I have a 1903 that I bought as mildly sporterized. It was all military except for a cut down stock with recoil pad and a side mounted Weaver 330. My side mount looks like the one on Frank, can you tell me who made it? All these rifles are beauties, I keep looking, one of these days I'll find one.

yes, all the screw in the rifle and scope and mount, cutoff, trigger and extractor all all gold plated. This is a pre-war (1938) rifle marked with franks name and not Pachmayer Gun Corp. Took me a couple decades to locate it.

I would have to see the other side of your mount but most likely a Noske.

Michael Petrov
08-01-2013, 06:23
Rick, Thanks for the kind words, vol II with all new material should be out this month.

Rick the Librarian
08-01-2013, 06:33
Great! When you have the "wherefores" - where to get it and how much to pay, let us know.

13Echo
08-01-2013, 07:32
I'd like to know if it has the modification to the end of the extractor and the safety lug to help hold the bolt closed.

Jerry Liles

Michael Petrov
08-01-2013, 09:22
I'd like to know if it has the modification to the end of the extractor and the safety lug to help hold the bolt closed. Jerry Liles

I'm not sure I understand your question, that modification was done by Barney Worthen and I have not seen it on a Pachmayr.


Typical Worthen bolt lock.
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joem
08-02-2013, 05:16
How does it shoot?

Michael Petrov
08-02-2013, 08:53
The Worthen shoots fine although I have not shot it in about ten year.

I took the Pachmayer take-down out last summer. I have one load I shoot in all my custom sporters.

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RickM
08-02-2013, 09:22
Beautiful, just beautiful. I'm jealous.