View Full Version : Correct Remington 1903A3 Cartouches?
Ok, wanted to share another one with the group. This is a gorgeous straight stock on a Remington 1903-A3. The furniture is excellent condition and everything is all R marked. I've never seen these cartouches together before, however. Any thoughts on these will be appreciated.
Rick the Librarian
08-07-2013, 04:04
Something doesn't add up -- the markings on the left side of the stock, although correct for a late Remington M1903A3, look faked to me. The sub-inspection stamps in the 3rd picture did not appear on a late Remington M1903A3.
FAKE, FAKE, AND MORE FAKE!
Mike
emmagee1917
08-07-2013, 04:30
And the square & P is from a rebuild facility which usually sands the stock , leaving little in the way of markings left ( look at the circled P ).
Chris
I wouldn't agree that arsenals usually sand the stock. I know that some did and some simply left it alone if it was not in bad shape. I'm looking for a little education on the cartouches, though, so what indicates that they are fake? Thanks, Chip
Rick the Librarian
08-07-2013, 06:02
1. The FJA is too tall and the letter fonts are incorrect
2. Ditto on the RA
3. The sub-inspection symbols were not used on late M1903A3 stocks - they were used on early Remington M1903s. M1903A3s used geometric symbols (squares, circles, etc.) with numbers inside.
I do not have a late Remington M1903A3 stock, but I'm sure someone else has pictures they can post. Once you see one, you'll be able to tell.
Thanks, Rick. They do seem tall. Another question, I've looked but I have not seen any FJA stamps with periods after the letters. Would that be correct for any FJA stamps or is that a dead giveaway. Also, of all the stamps, I was originally suspect of the Ordnance Escutcheon. It just seems too neat and detailed. What are your thoughts on it?
Here's what a 4.173M , 12/43 barrel dated 1903A3 looks like:
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/ebeeby2010/WW2/O3A33_zpsbb6bad62.jpg (http://s788.photobucket.com/user/ebeeby2010/media/WW2/O3A33_zpsbb6bad62.jpg.html)
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/ebeeby2010/WW2/O3A32_zps938738ac.jpg (http://s788.photobucket.com/user/ebeeby2010/media/WW2/O3A32_zps938738ac.jpg.html)
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/ebeeby2010/WW2/O3A31_zps305b15e1.jpg (http://s788.photobucket.com/user/ebeeby2010/media/WW2/O3A31_zps305b15e1.jpg.html)
Good photos, thanks. The Ordnance Wheel on the one I posted doesn't look right either, does it?
chuckindenver
08-08-2013, 07:26
late A3 markings..
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