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I'm have an inherited 1911 that was chromed after WW2. It is a WWI pistol (SN 328,XXX) with WW2 plastic grips. The barrel and the mag release is still in brushed blue. The rest is chromed including the mag. The chrome on inside of the slide and frame is very rough - so much so that it does not operate very well. If you push down the recoil spring plug it stays put even under spring pressure - you have to force it out with a nylon drift pin.
Should it be de-chromed and blued or just left alone?
Scott Gahimer
08-15-2013, 07:07
I suppose it's up to you whether or not you want to look at a chromed pistol that doesn't operate very well...or shoot a pistol that's been refinished at least a couple of times. I'm not much for looking at chromed pistols.
im not at home so I will post you a picture later. I bought a GI bringback 1911 from daughter last year after he passed for 200.00. In the 1950's he had it chromed....ughhh all correct Remington Rand. Anyway I wanted a shooter for light loads to go with my rebuilt AA R.R. I sent it to preformance plating in Olathe Ks. For 45.00 they deplated it to white. I lightly sandblasted it and reparked it with zinc phosphate. It is light grey instead of green grey one would see in a armory rebuilt gun (cosmoline storage). I bought a new pin and spring set. For about 350.00 I have nice shooting WW2 example that I dont worry about shooting. My son has already laid claim to it when I'm gone. At first I was just gonna leave it chromed but just hated the looks.
Johnny P
08-16-2013, 06:02
The chrome buildup is causing your tolerance problems.
By the way, WWII pistols that were never in cosmoline have the green color.
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This is my project right after park. I did eventually put Keyes grips on it. This is third gun I've had dechromed. Other two were hi powers. One was pretty pitted under chrome. No way to tell until chrome comes off.
I should add in all projects there seemed to be one or two tiny spots chrome stayed. If you expand the above picture and look at rear bottom corner of handle by the main spring housing you will see a tiny spec of chrome that remained. The guy at performance plating said a second dip would fix that. I wasn't worried about it, but some might.
Richard H Brown Jr
08-16-2013, 08:07
Chroming a gun hides a multitude of sins.
RHB
chuckindenver
08-16-2013, 10:36
some turn out nice....some not so much...pealing chrome= pitting under it..
There was also the issue how it was prepped before chroming. I know of another project where it appears gun was sandblasted with heavy media under a lot of pressure. Small pits all over gun but very uniform. Once again until deplated one never knows,
The markings look crisp, so I do not think it was sand blasted. Some copper is showing in the wear areas under the slide.
Its probably a good candidate for deplating or at least a shot. The Hi power that was pitted still shoots well I just had to block sand the fine pitting. Lost sharp corners and some letters but much better than a chrome club.
+1 with Johnny P. The chrome tightens up tolerance and is rough until polished. Removal of the plating may solve some operational problems.
You could have the inside of the slide bead blasted to remove the flaking/pitting. IF you can find someone who will do it and won't screw it up.
What is the cost of removing the chrome and then having refinished? Wondering if it's cost justified.
What is the cost of removing the chrome and then having refinished? Wondering if it's cost justified.
I paid 45.00 to have mine deplated. I reparked it myself. Any good shooter I'd try and keep total investment under 500.00 as a general rule. Anything above that and even if it turns out nice you will be upside down at least short term.
chuckindenver
08-27-2013, 12:16
just under 300.00 to have it done right like the one i pictured..i do them all the time
Shooter5
09-05-2013, 05:07
Encountered lots of plated guns in Mess-O-pomia, usually Warsaw Pact small arms. Occasionally something off kilter such as this USGI capture. If it could have been brought back, I would have left it as is simply because that is how it was encountered.
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Redleg13a
09-12-2013, 08:39
There's a chromed 1911A1 on display at ASG-Kuwait on Camp Arijfan. Couldn't tell the maker but supposedly it had been demilled. I didn't see any welds but they could have been on the right side where I couldn't see.
Shooter5
09-13-2013, 05:04
There's a chromed 1911A1 on display at ASG-Kuwait on Camp Arijfan. Couldn't tell the maker but supposedly it had been demilled. I didn't see any welds but they could have been on the right side where I couldn't see.
Will have to check that out next time. Or have a buddy gets a closer look.
Redleg13a
09-16-2013, 02:09
They had numerous other firearms in the 2 or 3 cases along with the 1911A1. They had AK's, Makarov's, BHP's, M1951 Beretta copies, grenades, mines, ComBloc MG's, ComBloc Sniper rifle and a German Mauser. They had other ordnance in there as well. I tried to get them to open the case so I could see the 1911 up close but they wouldn't do it.
On another note, I found a Brit 7.62mm brass on Arifjan while I was there. It was 80's headstamp so I figure it was fired during GW1. A civilian worker found a UXO submunition with a forklift when he was moving some concrete barriers. Luckily he wasn't hurt. Seems the area Arifjan is on now had an Iraqi artillery battery on it during GW1 and someone either dropped cluster bombs on it or hit it with DPICM or MLRS. Must have missed that one in the clean-up.
oldtirediron
09-23-2013, 10:18
Not to mess with anyone's project but when you plate something ;then de-plat it-- The metal underneath suffers hydrogen embrittlement-- Read up on it, this can be a real dangerous problem on some firearms and their metallurgy!
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