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m1ashot
09-23-2013, 04:52
Have opp. To buy. 2-13 star bbl w/ D72T on bbl. sn 1234008. 40 26 on bolt handle. No electro pencil number on bolt. Possible prick on receiver rail. No marks on stock. Refinished but very nice, no front swing swivel, band is there. Floor plate looks good compared to rest?

Rick the Librarian
09-23-2013, 05:09
A "hit" but, other than "DCM Rifle Sales", it mentions nothing about being a Sporter. Although I confess that NRA Sporters are not my specialty, the shape of the barrel and the bolt does not make it appear to be a sporter.

Johnny P
09-23-2013, 05:28
There were no 2-13 barrels with the star gage mark, and the barrel number sounds like a heat lot number. Definitely a Sporter stock, but nothing else looks right.

chuckindenver
09-24-2013, 06:29
not an NRA sporter..sorry...

m1ashot
09-24-2013, 07:46
The D72T is located near the end of forend. I thought these were inspector mark for star guage bbl. if not a Sporter what is it.

Herschel
09-24-2013, 08:18
The rear sight is not correct for an NRA Sporter. The windage scale should be on the back and the aperture hole should have hinged aperture in the front. The sight on the rifle has what I call the shallow base. It is later vintage than the sights that came on the NRA Sporters. The correct sight base would fill the mortised out place in the stock. The barrel date eliminates it as an NRA Sporter barrel as Sporter barrels had not been designed in 1913. The fit of the barrel band might be a clue. The Sporter barrel is a little thicker than the issue barrel so there may be a slight gap between the band and the barrel. The only thing we can say for sure is that it was sold by the DCM in 1930 and that it has a NRA Sporter stock.

Cosine26
09-24-2013, 10:55
The Lyman 48 is a post war II sight with ‘hunter’ knobs and the coil spring locking mechanism. I also believe that the “HO” bolt is a late SA bolt, long after Sporters were discontinued. Hershel is correct in that the Sporter barrel was larger than the standard barrel, and this would cause the upper band to be too large. FWIW

m1ashot
09-24-2013, 01:18
You guys are great, thanks so much. But you did not call it a fake. The guy is advertising it as NM Hybred, & useing NM BB 90% grade because it is higher than Sporter.

Johnny P
09-24-2013, 02:53
It appears that it was a DCM Sales Service Rifle that someone later converted to NRA Sporter configuration. As mentioned previously, there were no star gage marked barrels with that date, so that part is not original. The barrel, receiver and floor plate assembly of an NRA Sporter would have been rust blued, but that one is phosphate finished (Parkerized).

m1ashot
09-24-2013, 04:51
I would really like to own both Sporter, and NM. One walked right by me at gun show but I could not afford it 20 years ago

Herschel
09-24-2013, 07:11
I agree with Johnny P's comments above. There is no indication that anyone was trying deceive by faking bolt number, etc.

chuckindenver
09-25-2013, 06:34
111 bolts that i have, look the same way,. SHT bolt, thats not safe for live ammo,.
NRA sporters have the front of the receiver face round above the wood line as well..
likely someone just liked teh NRA sporter look, and made one up

m1ashot
09-26-2013, 08:02
Thanks guys for help

ncblksmth1
09-29-2013, 08:34
Is that one of the 1922 stocks? The cutout for the Lyman sight looks like the one I have.

Rick the Librarian
09-30-2013, 02:14
If you're talking about the original pictures posted, that is a stock made for an NRA Sporter. The M1922 did not have stock bolts.

DRB
10-01-2013, 10:56
Here is a real Sporter. The big thing to look for is the barrel has never had a rear sight installed so it is shaped a bit different and does not have the notch that aligns the rear sight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/drbecker/1903sporter001_zps73f26ade.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/drbecker/media/1903sporter001_zps73f26ade.jpg.html)

Here is the correct sight, J5 bolt with number on top.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/drbecker/1903sporter004_zps1ee874e6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/drbecker/media/1903sporter004_zps1ee874e6.jpg.html)

m1ashot
10-06-2013, 06:46
Thanks you