Any interest in discussing/buy/sell/trading .50-70 and .45-70 FA of the 1870s/80s?

[Dick Hosmer]

Have some duplicates, sealed boxes, etc., and, there are still a few such items I'd like to pick up. Is this mostly a shooter's forum, or do ammo collectors lurk here as well? Viewing the ammo album on my webpage www.picturetrail.com/sa4570af will show what I'm interested in. Thanks.

[JBinIll]

I'm looking for some single specimens of .50-70,no rarities,just some examples of the caliber.

[Dick Hosmer]

I may have some for sale or trade - what I'm really looking for is to enhance my box collection, particularly the final version of the Long Range box (which can be empty) from 1884, the one that is actually labeled "Model 1881".

[JBinIll]

I quit messing with boxes years ago after having an "accident" with what was an expensive hard to find shotshell 100 round box.

[sdkrag]

Dick, I have a round tin marked Frankford Arsenal filled with primers for reloading the 45-70.

[Dick Hosmer]

So do I! Neat little piece - picked it up somewhere along the way, can't be too many of 'em left. Mine is 100% full, but the label isn't the greatest.

[JBinIll]

So do I! Neat little piece - picked it up somewhere along the way, can't be too many of 'em left. Mine is 100% full, but the label isn't the greatest.

This tin?

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p529/OldGussie/IMG_1732.jpg

[Dick Hosmer]

Yes, that's the one.

[JBinIll]

Hard tin to find with a pristine label.I've got three of them and that's the best of the lot.All of them are full.

[Dick Hosmer]

Are you anywhere near Bureau County? The wife and I occasionally visit there (usually in June, and we are about due) in connection with the restoration of a pioneer cemetery. If so, maybe we could do lunch, or something?

[JBinIll]

I'm about 200+ miles south and east.:icon_e_sad:

[sdkrag]

That's the one. Mine is full minus a couple that I used. I had to see if they would go off. They do. They also look great in period .45-70 or .50-70 dummy cartridges made up for show. It's interesting the dimensional differences with modern primers.

[Dick Hosmer]

FA experimented with Berdan primed ammo in 1877. I have an (empty) April 77 box, and one sample R F 4 77 round.

There seems to be some question as to whether this item exists as R F 3 77, or whether the March date simply refers to the earliest use of a h/s on Benet rounds.

Anyone have an example of a March Berdan box, or cartridge?

[da gimp]

what would a box of period original Winchester or gov't arsenal produced 1886 or 1887, .45-70 ammo go for? kinda looking myself.......

[Dick Hosmer]

Probably somewhere on the order of $150-$200, give or take. Have no idea of the relative scarcity between commercial and FA, as I only collect the latter.

[John R.]

I have a very nice New York State Militia .50-70 Rolling block with bayonet parked at a friend's place in Portland Oregon.Also a Martini- Henry MkIII along with an Egyptian Rolling Block in. 43 Egyptian if anyone is interested.
If so drop me a PM and we'll go from there.

Cheers,

John R.

[sdkrag]

Dick, At one time my father-in-law had a box of 10 original FA Forager shells. Cartridge collector we got them from told us it was the only box he knew of. They went with the Forager when he sold it.

[Dick Hosmer]

I have one - they are NOT common. Actually had my choice of three, about 30 years ago: Full sealed for way more than I could afford at the time, full buit opened (carefully, and w/divider intact), and rough, not full. I took the middle ground. Shells are untinned brass, F 20 9 00, in as-new condition. I also have the little blue hard-covered 2 or 3 page "manual" covering the field loading kit - have never seen, or heard of, another of them.