Enfield values today

[Johan412th]

I'm currently searching for a no. 4 MK1, and I was wondering how much one would run me these days? Also, what is the value of a 1916 BSA no1 mk3?

[mack]

Please describe the condition of firearm you wish to purchase, i.e., perfect and unissued, used but pristine, shooter with very used stock, and so forth. The more precise your description, the better chance someone can offer you good advice.

If you have pics of BSA rifle, please post or ask a volunteer to post them so we can see specifics. Value is pretty much judgment of a buyer and seller.

[Johan412th]

Roger that. I'll post pictures of the BSA. As for the mk4, I'm looking for a decent quality shooter.

[Johan412th]

27040

It's pretty solid. Has a few nicks and scrapes, but a rifle almost a hundred years old should have some war wounds

[Art]

Can't tell a lot from the picture of the No1 MkIII but I notice it still has the cut off which is a plus. If it has a good bore and the numbers match where I live I figure $250.00 to $300.00. Where I live sound No 4 "mixmasters" with good barrels were running $225.00 to $250.00 depending on a lot of factors with especially nice ones pushing $275.00, sometimes more.

Where you live matters a lot, I don't know what the market is for milsurps where you live in Oregon. Some places milsurp rifles bring a premium, some places they go begging.

[Johan412th]

2704127042

Well the bore is in great condition, and the parts all match. It's truly the pride of my arsenal.

Most milsurp guns in my area are sporters, so they go cheap. 150-200 bucks. There's currently a complete Jungle Carbine for 500 bucks at my local consignment shop. Haven't had any full mk 4's pass through lately. As for what I'm personally after, I want one with a good barrel... Don't care if it's mixmaster at this point.

[Alan De Enfield]

Personally I think the condition of the metalwork is 'too good' - I think its been "refreshed" at some time

[Johan412th]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was arsenal refurbished. In fact, I recall the previous owner mentioning something like that.

[Johan412th]

Also, does anyone know the compatibility of enfield magazines between marks?

[Alan De Enfield]

Also, does anyone know the compatibility of enfield magazines between marks?

A No1 fits a No1
A No4 will fit a No4 or a No5

[Johan412th]

Gratzi

[Johan412th]

Would rebarreling it increase or decrease the BSA's value?

[Art]

Would rebarreling it increase or decrease the BSA's value?

The short answer is the rifle's value would decrease.

The longer answer is not only would the value decrease you'd have to find a better barrel and they are few and far between so not cheap and you'd have to find a gunsmith who is qualified to do the work, rebarreling and SMLE has some unique issues, I've been told.

Any modification will reduce the value and since you said the barrel is in great shape why would you want to change it?

[Johan412th]

Long story. I have a sporterized ishapore without a barrel band and it's out shooting my BSA at this point. I also happen to have a brand new barrel wrapped in cosmoline for the BSA. I'm probably jumping to conclusions with my BSA barrel needing to be replaced, though. I'm still new to the gritty details of enfields.

[Alan De Enfield]

Its more likely dry or warped wood on the BSA making the 'bedding' questionable.

[Johan412th]

Its more likely dry or warped wood on the BSA making the 'bedding' questionable.

Hadn't considered that. I'll give it a look. Thanks Alan.

[John Sukey]

Its more likely dry or warped wood on the BSA making the 'bedding' questionable.

I would agree on that. there are only two places the barrel should contact the wood.
1. at the knox form
2. at the front barrel band
If the forend is warped and contacting the barrel at any other point it will affect it.

[Johan412th]

I would agree on that. there are only two places the barrel should contact the wood.
1. at the knox form
2. at the front barrel band
If the forend is warped and contacting the barrel at any other point it will affect it.

Pardon my naïveté... What is the Knox form you speak of?

[JB White]

Knock's Form named after the fellow who developed it, now called the Knox form, is the barrel area ahead of the shank and receiver ring with the flat spot on top.

[Johan412th]

Thanks for explaining. So a rifle I'm mulling over restoring is a no4 mk1 sporterized. Is 190 too steep for a sporter ?

[Art]

Thanks for explaining. So a rifle I'm mulling over restoring is a no4 mk1 sporterized. Is 190 too steep for a sporter ?

Considering a nice No 4 rifle can be had most places for under $300.00, it would have to be a very, very nice sporter to go for $190.00, and if it was that nice I probably would find another project rifle. I have a pretty Bishop stocked, commercially refinished No 1 Mk III* sporter and I wouldn't ask that for it.

If the rifle doesn't have any modifications other than a cut down stock and the numbers match, and it's in very good condition overall I might go $125.00, $150.00 tops, since I would only be buying the barreled action and would only have to scrounge up a stock.

[joem]

I like the color of the stock.

[Johan412th]

Considering a nice No 4 rifle can be had most places for under $300.00, it would have to be a very, very nice sporter to go for $190.00, and if it was that nice I probably would find another project rifle. I have a pretty Bishop stocked, commercially refinished No 1 Mk III* sporter and I wouldn't ask that for it.

If the rifle doesn't have any modifications other than a cut down stock and the numbers match, and it's in very good condition overall I might go $125.00, $150.00 tops, since I would only be buying the barreled action and would
only have to scrounge up a stock.


Turns out its 210$... The stock is beautiful, and so is the action, it's just incredibly worn. You can't even tell when and where it was manufactured. I can barely make out ENGLAND on the left side. It's a nice rifle, I just want one with intact steel. Harder to find around here, apparently.