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blocker
07-15-2014, 09:02
When, if ever, did Colt use the slide made by Savage on the Model 1911? Thanks.

Col. Colt
07-15-2014, 10:34
Colt did not, but it is my understanding that US Army Ordnance assembled some pistols with "left over" contract parts gathered from all the US Contractors from the end of WWI.
I believe Springfield Armory may have done the assembly, basically from parts bins. I have seen a Colt frame with a Savage slide that looked like they had been mated for life. CC

mannparks
07-15-2014, 10:43
A flaming bomb with S in the ctr. Is said to be the mark of A.J. Savage mfg. Of California
1918 vintage

Not connected with the Savage Arms of Utica ,NY

Charles

ignats
07-15-2014, 05:06
The A J Savage Munitions Company was founded by Arthur J. Savage and his father Arthur W. Savage. Both had sold their shares of Savage Arms in Utica, NY and headed to California. The company formed in San Diego was to be the first firearms manufacturer located in the West. It was a good idea but it didn't work out. Savage did receive a contract to produce slides that were to be fitted to Springfield Armory frames. The wording in the book I read this in would indicate Savage would buy the frames from Springfield and assemble the pistols. When the war ended, the contract was cancelled and Savage did not receive payment. They never delivered a single completed pistol and the company folded in 1919.

mannparks
07-15-2014, 06:56
IMG_20140715_180813_924.jpg (91.6 KB)

Sorry about it being upsidedown

Johnny P
07-16-2014, 06:07
One of the requirements of the contract to manufacture Model 1911 pistols was that the slide have the name and address of the manufacturer.

David H.
07-20-2014, 08:53
Vary interesting, I have had one for a few years. Here are some photos. I am also looking for info on this subject. Let me know what you think. Some of the small parts are marked with an S.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d7bd5a2400000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031823834.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-1608076785

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d7cedb6700000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031807381.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-290988071

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d4079b3700000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031942926.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-1148730783

quicksilvergoat
07-20-2014, 09:09
You have a Springfield Armory frame. The S marked parts I believe are all Springfield Armory. Nice pistol.


Vary interesting, I have had one for a few years. Here are some photos. I am also looking for info on this subject. Let me know what you think. Some of the small parts are marked with an S.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d7bd5a2400000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031823834.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-1608076785

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d7cedb6700000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031807381.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-290988071

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d4079b3700000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031942926.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-1148730783

David H.
07-25-2014, 10:49
Here is the barrel

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d78cdb2500000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031852223.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/?tn=1984588807

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a4d901b3127cd72d37d4701a7000000010O00RZuGjRk5Yg9 u3Gw/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00109240483020140721031903483.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/?tn=-1674076940

tndrfttom
07-25-2014, 11:47
I'm following this with interest because I have an Augusta Arsenal rebuild with a Savage slide on a Colt frame. I read on one website that the author (and I'm paraphrasing) believes all the slides wound up in Augusta Arsenal and the only 'correct' pistols with Savage slides should also have the AA stamp on the frame.

http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/1911/1917%20Colt_Savage%20M1911.htm

On page 29 of Clawson's Colt .45 Service Pistols, Models on 1911 and 1911A1 (3rd ed.), the Savage slides are discussed. He makes the situation more cloudy by adding that some of the slides were sold as surplus so the presence of a Savage slide on a 1911 frame could mean that the slide was added to the frame after the frame left government inventory. The example pictured in Clawson's book shows the frame to be AA stamped.

All info/opinion on this subject is welcomed.