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Rick the Librarian
11-25-2014, 07:31
I wasn't quite sure where to insert this, but a friend of mine came across some interesting "old" pictures of the M1909 Benet-Mercie "machine rifle", which was adopted by the U.S. Army several years before WWI.

According to Bruce Canfield's book on U.S. WWI weapons, it was based on a Hotchkiss design and used 30-round "strips", which HAD to be inserted the right way. At 30 pounds, it was heavier than a typical automatic rifle but lighter than a heavy machine gun. Interesting to me, it came with a Warner-Swasey scope, similar to that used on early M1903 sniper rifles.

Rightly or wrongly, it got a bad "rap" and was called derisively "the daylight gun" because it was almost impossible to assemble or repair at night or under poor lighting. Edward Crossman, who wrote quite a bit about M1903s, claimed it went through parts, especially extractors and firing pins, at an alarming rate, especially during cold weather. As I recall, Julian Hatcher (author of "Hatcher's Notebook" and other firearms books) sort of stood up for them and said that poor training was the reason for their indifferent performance.

670 of these were made by both Colt and Springfield Armory. The only service they saw was at the Mexican border and training. To my knowledge, none got overseas and they were quickly discarded after WWI.

Good or bad, the pictures are interesting. Also note that most of the pictures show the firearm being used with "iron sights", not the W-S.

http://www.fototime.com/7B095B36CB2E9E8/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/292DAC1E63BD89B/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/1282C186C4709E9/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/EA8A1C230745F3A/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/93A6889EC2D10DA/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/261F7344E6A9298/standard.jpg

Fred
11-25-2014, 09:38
Fantastic photos! Thanks for sharing!!!

Allen Humphrey
11-25-2014, 10:04
Great photos Rick. Love the shot of the dog lounging under the bipod! The first two pictures seem to be in the same location (based on the trees, fence, grass and buildings), but different rifles. One with scope, one without.

RCS
11-26-2014, 07:57
Hotchkiss in Belgium 1914

pmclaine
11-26-2014, 08:47
My local gun shop has a box full of these ammo feed trays. Thanks for educating me on what they went to.

RCS
11-27-2014, 08:00
Original Benet-Mercie 1909 feed strips would be difficult to find, most of the Hotchkiss type feed strips found are 7,7 Japanese or 303 British

Rick the Librarian
11-27-2014, 09:01
I would agree - I've seen a couple of French or Japanese ones, but never a B-M.