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Rick the Librarian
12-03-2014, 07:34
The gentleman with the Gary Cooper rifle asked if I would post some pictures of the rifle. As his post with the information was part of an older thread from about 18 months back, I decided to take the liberty of including the information he provided in the original post. The pictures, with his descriptions, are below that. Enjoy!!

Default 2nd Gary Cooper Griffin & Howe



I recently discovered I have a Griffin & Howe that was owned by Gary Cooper. Paul Chapman at Griffin & Howe says he will send me a record of the rifle they have from an old Ambercrobie and Fitch ledger showing G Cooper bringing the rifle in for modification or repairs in 1936. They aren't sure what the reason was but it was the same year the rifle was made and sold.
The interesting thing is I have found a couple photos of Gary Cooper holding the rifle and and a few of him in his gun room with the rifle in his gun cabinet. I don't know how to post photos on this website but would be glad to email them to anyone who knows how.
Here's the story. Hope some of you enjoy it.


A COUPLE KNIVES, A CASUAL JOKE AND AN IPHONE EQUALS A RIFLE OWNED BY GARY COOPER.

I had a couple of collectable knives my father had given me from his collection in the 70's. They were too valuable to use for hunting or anything other than display.
Recently I had become interested in Griffin & Howe rifles but I was reluctant to purchase one until I made the decision to sell the knives giving me the funds to make a purchase without getting into trouble with my wife.

I had been looking at the small selection of Griffin & Howe rifles available for sale on various websites for a few weeks. One that stood out and was priced more reasonably than most was for sale by John Mead on his Dead Rat Ranch website. He had purchased the rifle in 2012 from the estate of Bob Peterson of Beverly Hills California who had owned Peterson Publishing. Bob had used the rifle on his ranch according to John Mead.

The photos of the rifle were gorgeous and price seemed very fair compared to other Griffin & Howe rifles so I made a deal with John and was excited to receive it the following week.
I bragged to my friends that it was a "two-knife gun", since I only had to sell two knives to raise the funds to buy the rifle. Actually, I even had a little left over to buy some ammo.
The rifle was a bit unusual for its 30-06 caliber. It had a 26 inch "medium weight" barrel and an additional push-button trigger guard safety, another rare feature. I didn't even know about the secondary safety until I received the rifle. Another interesting feature I wasn't aware of until I received the rifle was an inlaid silver oval in the bottom of the stock with the engraved initials "GC". I didn't think anything of it at the time and was more interested in the function of the action and the highly figured wood.

The rifle was extremely accurate both with the attached Zeiss scope and without using the Lyman peep sight. The only dissapointment was the safety on the trigger guard wasn't functioning properly. I took the rifle to a local gun smith and they said they could repair it easily but it would be a few weeks before they could get to it. When I got the call that it was finished I made the trip across town to pick it up. Two of the gunsmiths were there when I arrived and they spent several minutes showing me the extraordinary features and workmanship that was put into pre-war Griffin & Howe rifles. As I started to leave, the gun smith who had repaired the safety asked jokingly, who's initials were GC? He said, " Gary Cooper?" I replied, "yea, either Gary Cooper or George Carlin." We both laughed and I left the shop with the rifle.

The following weekend brought lousy weather. Disappointed that I couldn't take the newly acquired rifle out to shoot and with nothing better to do, I was sat in my living room watching old movies and perusing the Internet on my IPhone. I was reading the history of Griffin & Howe on a website when I stumbled onto something that Interesting. They had been a successful business since 1923 attracting celebrity clients such as Earnest Hemingway, Kermit Roosevelt, Clark Gable, and Gary Cooper. I had no idea Gary Cooper and Clark Gable were avid hunters. I soon learned, in fact that Gary Cooper and Earnest Hemingway were great hunting buddies and best of friends. This was very Interesting to me. When I was a teenager I was fortunate enough to guide Pat Hemingway, (Earnest Hemingway's son), on a turkey hunt near my home in 1981.

I was not excited yet, knowing the odds were pretty slim that the GC on my rifle stood for Gary Cooper. But I continued my detective work of Griffin and Howe and expanded into searches of Gary Cooper, still on my IPhone. Within an hour I came across a candid photo of Gary Cooper in his home cleaning a rifle. To his left was a gun cabinet with several shotguns and and rifles. One of the rifles caught my attention. It had the same characteristics and features as my rifle including the heavy 26 inch barrel and a dark area on the side of the stock at the point where the checkering ends above the magazine. Now this was becoming more intriguing but I still believed it was unlikely it was the same rifle. It did, however, motivate me enough to put a call into Bob Beach of Griffin & Howe's archives and research department. Bob called me back a few days later and said that in fact there was no sales record matching the serial number of my rifle. However there is record in 1936, (the same year the rifle was made and sold), of G. Cooper returning the rifle, presumably to have some modifications or repairs. It is unknown why but it's possible he had the barrel re-bored from the original 220 swift to the current 30-06 caliber. With this bit of information all of the pieces of the puzzle started to fall into place. He had me check the side of the barrel to see if the original engraving of the caliber had been removed and replaced with 30-06. In fact it had. We do not know for sure if it was Gary Cooper who made this change or if it was done by Bob Paterson. But we do know that Cooper brought it back for some kind of service shortly after he purchased it.

A few days later I found even more photographs of Gary Cooper in his gun room at home. He was different ages in all of them but in each the same rifle with the 26 inch barrel stood out. The best photos I have come across to date is of Gary Holding the rifle. These photos were taken in 1937. In one of the photos, after zooming in on the portion of the stock behind the pistol grip and comparing it to a photo of my rifle at the same angle I have identified perfectly matching patterns in the wood wood grain. These photos show even more detail with the matching Zeiss Scope and the Lyman peep sight below it.
I'm still looking for more information on Gary Cooper and his firearms. I'd love to find a photo with Earnest Hemingway and Gary Cooper together with this rifle. No luck so far but looking forward to the next blizzard.

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Rick the Librarian
12-03-2014, 07:41
These are some pictures that the current owner obtained that appear to show the rifle pictured above:

The first photo I found of Gary Cooper in his gun room in Beverly Hills. The second rifle from the left in the gun cabinet looked suspiciously like the Griffin & Howe with the 26 inch medium heavy barrel. Photo taken in 1945

http://www.fototime.com/B19C7BA3DD7E24E/standard.jpg

Another photo of Gary with the same gun cabinet and rifle is far right. Photo taken 1940

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1947 - The rifle is on the far right in the gun cabinet

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Gary is holding the gun in these next two photos that look like they were taken in 1937 on the Souls at Sea set.

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Here is a zoomed in area of the photo above of the area of the stock to the left of Gary's hand and pistol grip with the highly figured wood. The last photo is a photo I took with my iPhone zoomed in at roughly the same angle of the same area on the stock. If you look closely you can see the exact same patterns in the wood.

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Emri
12-03-2014, 07:52
Thanks Rick, for doing him a service and making a new posting of it.

Nice rifle Bhauer !! Thanks for sharing.

Bhauer
12-03-2014, 09:26
Yes. Thanks Rick. I need to learn how to put photos up. I have google drive. I wonder if they can be posted from there.

Rick the Librarian
12-03-2014, 09:32
Times like this, I really miss Michael Petrov. I know he would have had a LOT of things to say about this rifle.

StockDoc
12-03-2014, 12:52
Very Nice, thank you

Bhauer
12-03-2014, 01:21
There is a very nice lady who owns a website called Gary Cooper Scrapbook. She actually found most of the pictures of Gary Cooper with the rifle. She's a sweetheart.

Fred
12-03-2014, 05:43
I believe that the rifle in the photo which is held by Gary Cooper is indeed the same rifle as the one you bought. I wasn't so sure at first, but upon studying the two photos, I can see that the grain in the area you've pointed out appears to be the same. I think that's fantastic! Congratulations!

Art
12-03-2014, 09:01
The shotgun in the second picture appears to be a higher grade Parker. Nothing but the best! :icon_salut:

Bhauer
12-03-2014, 09:09
Thanks Fred. I'm pretty proud of myself for the detective work. Luckiest find I've ever made.

Fred
12-03-2014, 10:52
Is the receiver double or single heat treated?

Bhauer
12-04-2014, 06:46
I don't know how to tell the difference. How can you tell if it's one or the other?

jgaynor
12-04-2014, 06:59
Unless the original serial number is still legible it would be difficult to determine with certainty. Some of the custom builders like R. F. Sedgley re-heat treated low numbered receivers. I don't know if G&H did this as well but their archivist might know. Naturally the small number of "burned" receivers would have been beyond salvage.

In this case the rifle gets the major portion of its value by virtue of who built it and who it belonged to.

Bhauer
12-04-2014, 09:36
The only serial number is Griffin & Howe's 4 digit number. The rifle was made in 1936 but I don't think that will tell me anything.

RickM
12-06-2014, 03:14
Omg yet another thing to obsess about that i can never have lol

Bhauer
12-08-2014, 04:09
I've been a little obsessed with it since I got it. I'm always on the Internet trying to find out more about Gary Cooper and his hunting and shooting habits. One of the most interesting things I discovered was Cooper was good friends and hunting buddies with Earnest Hemingway. I would guess at least at some point Hemingway had his hands on this rifle. I keep searching for more photos hoping one will turn up with Earnest Hemingway and Cooper together with the rifle. Hemingway's favorite hunting rifle was also a 30-06 Griffin & Howe. There are a lot of photos of him with that. Hemingway's Guns is a good book if anyone is interested.

Fred
12-09-2014, 10:03
I'll bet that Earnest had shouldered the rifle and even fired it.

Bhauer
12-09-2014, 03:54
I like to think so. The rifle was originally chambered for 220 swift. I wonder if it was Cooper that had it re-bored at some point to 30-06 because of Earnest Hemingway's love of his Griffin & Howe 30-06. The record at Griffin & Howe shows Cooper bringing the rifle back to their shop in the same year it was sold, 1936, for a repair or modification. It may be possible it was rechambered at that time. Or, possibly to mount the Zeiss scope which is still on the rifle today. No way to know. Their records don't specify the reason firearms were brought back in to the shop.
When I look through the scope I like to imagine Gary Cooper and Earnest Hemingway shouldering the rifle and looking through optics.
I love the Griffin & Howe QD scope mount. The rifle is super accurate with both the Lyman peep sight and with the scope. I am planning on hunting deer and Elk with it next fall.

Fred
12-09-2014, 05:06
Wow, I know you'll enjoy That!
Have you been able to identify the rifle with an identical scope on it in any photo's?

Bhauer
12-09-2014, 05:38
Yes. The two photos of Gary Cooper holding the rifle have the identical scope. I'm almost 100% positive it's the same scope.

Bhauer
12-17-2014, 06:16
http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/smallerfileHighOntheWildphoto_zps74c99cb3.jpg~orig inal (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/smallerfileHighOntheWildphoto_zps74c99cb3.jpg.html )Found a book called Hemingway High On The Wild by Lloyd Arnold. In it is another photo of Gary Cooper with the same rifle again positively identified by features and the patterns in the wood grain again! The photo was taken in early 1948 by the author Lloyd Arnold when Gary Cooper was visiting Earnest Hemingway in Idaho. I did a quick google search and found another similar photo that was taken at the same time. This photo is owned by the library at Southern Utah University. I called a very nice lady by the name of Paula. She was nice enough to send me the full size file of the photo today. This is very interesting for me since it proves Gary used the rifle for hunting and it wasn't a safe queen. i also included some text from the book Hemingway High On The Wild describing how the author was asked by Gary Cooper to take the photos of him with the bobcat. http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2014-12/8C1C4F87-EDF6-46AD-993E-2F11F473B5B2_zps4vpwcbxf.jpg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/2014-12/8C1C4F87-EDF6-46AD-993E-2F11F473B5B2_zps4vpwcbxf.jpg.html)

http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/CooperampBobcat_zps0e8fdfbd.jpg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/CooperampBobcat_zps0e8fdfbd.jpg.html)
http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2014-12/D8F35EE1-D0E9-459A-9505-8815B9321D8E_zpspt9b2nac.jpg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/2014-12/D8F35EE1-D0E9-459A-9505-8815B9321D8E_zpspt9b2nac.jpg.html)

tmark
12-17-2014, 08:54
I thought Gary Cooper made his hunting exploits using a sporterized Eddystone M1917 unless he traded it in for a sporterized 1903 at the hunting grounds! This topic has been covered so many times!

Bhauer
12-25-2014, 11:03
I thought Gary Cooper made his hunting exploits using a sporterized Eddystone M1917 unless he traded it in for a sporterized 1903 at the hunting grounds! This topic has been covered so many times!
Actually, I don't believe the one photo above has ever been posted. Thought some people might be interested in seeing Gary Cooper with a bobcat he took in Idaho.

Fred
12-25-2014, 11:55
I think that the reference made above by tmark was meant to be a tongue in cheek reference to the ongoing argument of whether Sgt. York (played by Gary Cooper) had used a 1903 Springfield or a 1917 Enfield in his battlefield exploit.
I thank you for this Very Interesting thread Bhauer!

Mike D
12-25-2014, 02:51
Yes, great thread! Gary Cooper is my favorite actor from the silver screen days. A rifle to be proud of! I would have to shoot it, if only once!

Mike

Fred
12-25-2014, 03:52
Most definitely!

Bhauer
12-25-2014, 08:46
Yes, great thread! Gary Cooper is my favorite actor from the silver screen days. A rifle to be proud of! I would have to shoot it, if only once!

Mike

Thanks Guys. I have shot the rifle and plan to hunt deer and elk with it next year. Originally I took the scope off and had planned to hunt with just the Lyman sight. The scope and QD Griffin & Howe scope mount are all steel and add an extra pound to an already heavy rifle. It shot really well at 80 yards with open sights. But, I tried it with the scope back on and it was really good. So, that's how I plan to leave it and hunt with it next fall. Thanks for all the comments. I'm not on many forums but I am enjoying this one.

PhillipM
12-25-2014, 11:07
Thanks Guys. I have shot the rifle and plan to hunt deer and elk with it next year. Originally I took the scope off and had planned to hunt with just the Lyman sight. The scope and QD Griffin & Howe scope mount are all steel and add an extra pound to an already heavy rifle. It shot really well at 80 yards with open sights. But, I tried it with the scope back on and it was really good. So, that's how I plan to leave it and hunt with it next fall. Thanks for all the comments. I'm not on many forums but I am enjoying this one.

As you can tell from over 1,200 views, many like me have really enjoyed you posting the pictures and the research on this unique rifle. Thank you!

RickM
12-26-2014, 12:36
I'm jealous. ..., swap you an unmolested 1901 krag and an m1a for it :-)

Fred
12-26-2014, 11:36
I'll swap you a minty unmolested WW I era 1903 and a fistful of dollars!

Bhauer
12-26-2014, 02:47
Tempting!!! :icon_lol:
I really want to take it hunting next fall. Hoping to get a deer or elk with it next year.

RickM
12-27-2014, 04:54
Dang it fred...... ill up it with a krag that is full length unmolested metal with just the stock having been sported lol....

Bhauer
12-27-2014, 03:22
Maybe we should just share it. Lol! I'm thinking some day I might give it on loan to the Cody Museum so everyone can see it. I might establish a condition that my grandchildren and great grandchildren would be allowed to check it out for a month at a time to take it hunting. Still pondering.

Rick the Librarian
12-27-2014, 03:25
While I sympathize in your desire to take it out and put it to the use it was intended, I admit I'd hesitate to take such a rifle with a "history" out into the "boonies".

Bhauer
12-27-2014, 03:42
While I sympathize in your desire to take it out and put it to the use it was intended, I admit I'd hesitate to take such a rifle with a "history" out into the "boonies".

I hear you. I'm not sure yet what to do with this rifle. I've always been pretty careful with my firearms and have hunted with some fairly valuable old mauser sporters, Winchesters, etc. I have lived on a private ranch my whole life with elk deer, turkies, etc., and so I have a comfort level on my own turf. Still debating. I would make a cool story if I could tell my grandkids I hunted with Gary Cooper's rifle. Of course they probably will have no idea who Cooper was by the time I have Grandkids.

Bhauer
02-04-2015, 11:37
Accidentally deleted the photo I had in photobucket, below of Gary Cooper with the Griffin & Howe and the bobcat he took. This is the pic that is published in the book Hemingway High On The Wild by Lloyd Arnold and the photo was taken by the Author in January 1948 while Cooper was visiting Ernest Hemingway in Sun Valley, Idaho.

Bhauer
02-04-2015, 12:17
http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/smallerfileHighOntheWildphoto_zps74c99cb3.jpg~orig inal (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/smallerfileHighOntheWildphoto_zps74c99cb3.jpg.html )

Bhauer
02-13-2015, 04:55
Paul Chapman at Griffin & Howe emailed me today along with an attached copy of their Journal entry for my rifle. It is simple and hand written but gives the year, 1936, the rifle's four diget serial number, the Caliber, and the name G Cooper.
Glad to finally have that piece of the puzzle!http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/DC57FC16-FEEC-469C-A6BA-FC203027BCA7_zpslk0y00ut.jpg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/DC57FC16-FEEC-469C-A6BA-FC203027BCA7_zpslk0y00ut.jpg.html)

Fred
02-13-2015, 09:35
Cool!

Shooter5
02-16-2015, 12:47
This post sure is neat! Lots of cool history. Thanks.

Andouille
03-01-2015, 09:36
I hear you. I'm not sure yet what to do with this rifle. I've always been pretty careful with my firearms and have hunted with some fairly valuable old mauser sporters, Winchesters, etc. I have lived on a private ranch my whole life with elk deer, turkies, etc., and so I have a comfort level on my own turf. Still debating. I would make a cool story if I could tell my grandkids I hunted with Gary Cooper's rifle. Of course they probably will have no idea who Cooper was by the time I have Grandkids.

Ask yourself, what would Gary Cooper do with that rifle come hunting season.

He bought it to use it, and you have proof thereof. Your call, but probably in our heart of hearts, we all know what Coop would tell you do do.

Bhauer
03-01-2015, 10:01
I'm planning on hunting elk this year with it. And maybe deer. We have have an elk season for the first time in history on the ranch I live on. I'm pretty excited abou that. If i don't have any success with elk I'll probably take it deer hunting in November.

Rick the Librarian
03-01-2015, 07:10
While I understand the "history" of it, I still would leave such a historic rifle inside.

Fred
03-01-2015, 07:16
Sell it for a nice profit to a collector and use the money to buy yourself a fine shooter.

Bhauer
03-01-2015, 09:14
At some point I may loan it to the Cody Museum. I've talked with them and they have a high interest in displaying it in the section of the museum dedicated to firearms owned by famous individuals. I have quite a portfolio of high quality enlarged photo reprints of Cooper with the rifle to go with it. I found a company that does a beautiful job on enlargements.
I would hate to sell it at this point. It's the best and only story I have of finding something like that and I'm kind of proud of the detective work and all the photos and information I've found over the past few months. Hoping one of my grandchildren will appreciate it some day.

g5m
03-04-2015, 10:45
Beautiful rifle and great story. I'd surely have a hard time putting that rifle at risk.

Fred
03-04-2015, 11:05
Shooting it with over powered loads would be more in the line of a risk. Sensible handling and use is what it was designed for.

rebound
03-04-2015, 06:03
Shooting it with over powered loads would be more in the line of a risk. Sensible handling and use is what it was designed for.

Sensible handling is what you hope for and try to do. But dropping your rifle from your tree stand 15 ft. high, can and does happen. JUST ASK ME...

Fred
03-04-2015, 08:11
Ouch!

The Wolf
03-10-2015, 07:56
Superb rifle! Definitely one Michael Petrov would comment on if he were still with us.

I've been a huge fan of sporterized 1903's over the years, and this rifle is clearly the pinnacle of G&H craftsmanship from this era. Loan it to a museum if you like for a time, but keep it in the family! I hope you have a son or grandchild with the same level of enthusiasm you have for this rifle, someone who will cherish it the way you do. I remember admiring a Japanese sword my grandfather, a member of the 11th Airborne, brought back from the Pacific in WW2 as it sat over his fireplace for years. I would ask to see it every time I went over, and was eventually allowed to carefully hold it under strict supervision as I got older. My enthusiasm for this sword never waned, and my grandfather recognized this. When I was in my late 20's, and a year before he passed away from cancer, I got a package in the mail. It was the sword! I was speechless. I immediately called him up, and he told me of all his children and other grandchildren, I was the one he recognized as truly loving and respecting this sword, so it should rightfully go to me. It's the pride of my sword collection, and I will never part with it, other than to designate it to one of my children (or grandchildren).

As far as shooting it, I agree with Rick, that it's such a serious piece of documented history, I would be loath to take it out into the hard brush. But it was created for a purpose, namely shooting, so some controlled, occasional shooting on your ranch should not be out of the question. I would use low-powered bullets, as the 30-06 round, coupled with it's unknown year of manufacture, require the need to be cautious here.

Best Regards from Virginia,

Chris

Andouille
03-10-2015, 04:00
I'm planning on hunting elk this year with it. And maybe deer. We have have an elk season for the first time in history on the ranch I live on. I'm pretty excited abou that. If i don't have any success with elk I'll probably take it deer hunting in November.

Very good. I for one, believe Coop would be very pleased, and I have every confidence you aren't so stoo-pud as to take that historical artifact out in rain or snow or into harms way. I believe you know very well what you have there and will take every precaution.

Post us up some pics of whatever you shoot with it, please?

Bhauer
03-30-2015, 08:40
Found another photo last week, of all places on EBay! This one was taken by the same author Lloyd Arnold who took the other two photos of Gary with the bobcat. You can really see the details of the rifle in this photo.
http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2015-03/AFF86B2C-DA24-4BB1-B08A-2CC4270F38CA_zpsaceqq5ej.png (http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2015-03/AFF86B2C-DA24-4BB1-B08A-2CC4270F38CA_zpsaceqq5ej.png)

Bhauer
03-30-2015, 08:49
Here is one photo I took and a zoom in of the photo of Gary Cooper so you can see how the grain in the wood is a match again. Pretty cool I think!
http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2015-03/90416C4C-4E4E-4049-A6A0-5E53317DBC95_zpsvbif6awn.jpg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/2015-03/90416C4C-4E4E-4049-A6A0-5E53317DBC95_zpsvbif6awn.jpg.html)
http://http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah20/bohauer/2015-03/3AD5B689-C845-47E2-82C6-DB6AF6AE0826.png_zpsp9wc3q80.jpeg (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/bohauer/media/2015-03/3AD5B689-C845-47E2-82C6-DB6AF6AE0826.png_zpsp9wc3q80.jpeg.html)