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JComer
02-02-2015, 03:51
what years did they use SA over SPG in a box? thanks

03Rifleman
02-02-2015, 05:33
Stanley P. Gibbs, Chief Inspector Springfield Armory 1932 through 1938 (approximate)

Rick the Librarian
02-02-2015, 06:14
I've been told more like 1936-1942. There was also a brief period post-war that Gibbs used his stamp on overhauled M1s.

JComer
02-02-2015, 06:32
I've been told more like 1936-1942. There was also a brief period post-war that Gibbs used his stamp on overhauled M1s.


so if I am thinking correctly a faint SA SPG stamp on a finger grooved stock could be one of his Overhauled 1903's?

Rick the Librarian
02-02-2015, 07:24
That's correct, except for NM rifles (which would be a Type C stock).

RCS
02-02-2015, 07:28
The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stamp29710

JComer
02-02-2015, 07:44
The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stamp29710

here is the stamp on a 1903 finger grooved stock

29711

John Beard
02-02-2015, 08:36
The post WW2 SA SPG stamp was used from 1947 to 1950. Main use was on the rebuilt M1 rifles (some carbines have surfaced also with the rebuild stamp). This SA SPG stamp or cartouche is different from the pre war SA SPG stamp, the post war SA SPG has the "fat" letters while the pre war stamp has the tall narrow letters in an almost square box.

Both Billy Pyle in his book "The Gas Trap Garand" and Canfield's book "The M1 Garand Rifle" both have information on the post WW2 SA SPG rebuild stamp yet the GCA Journal Winter
2014 article on "Post War Cartouches: A Window into Time" failed to mention anything about the post WW2 SA SPG stamp !

Photo shows a post WW2 SA SPG stamp29710

RCS,

The stamp in your photo is actually a third S.A./S.P.G. stamp. Stanley P. Gibbs used two different stamps prior to WWII. One with "fat" letters as you mention, and one with "skinny" letters, even skinnier than the ones in your photo. I trust the stamp in your photo appears on a post-WWII overhauled M1 Garand. If not, please describe what it appears on.

Thanks!

J.B.

RCS
02-03-2015, 06:25
John, You are correct, the photo in my post is a post WW2 SA SPG stamp on a post WW2 rebuild M1 rifle.

Also have a photo from a 1903 "C" NM stock that has the drawing number D-1836 plus the original rifle # 1497163 which shows
another variation of the pre war SA SPG stamp

Second photo is an early gas trap no-trap stock with the pre war SA SPG stamp2971729718

John Beard
02-03-2015, 08:07
John, You are correct, the photo in my post is a post WW2 SA SPG stamp on a post WW2 rebuild M1 rifle.

Also have a photo from a 1903 "C" NM stock that has the drawing number D-1836 plus the original rifle # 1497163 which shows
another variation of the pre war SA SPG stamp

Second photo is an early gas trap no-trap stock with the pre war SA SPG stamp2971729718

Thanks for the photos!

Those are examples of the pre-WWII "fat-letter" and "skinny-letter" stamps. The post-WWII overhaul stamp in your earlier picture is a "medium letter" stamp (if I may coin a new phrase).

Thanks again for the photos!

J.B.