View Full Version : You don't see too many of these.
I haven't personally seen one of these in the flesh, books, pictures etc, yes, but in person not until now. It's quite impressive I'll say that. This one is in a local gun shop and has been for sale for some time although it's tucked away and I never noticed it. I'm thinking Fred should jump on it! 3000130002
Kurt
Gosh, I don't know what I'd do with it since I don't shoot any more. I'll bet a widow brought it in. A lot of high end collectible guns are showing up lately. Probably how my stuff will end up.
Much too high for me but I'd sure like to have it.
Yes, a whole lot of mullah for sure. You'd have to take the shelf out of the safe to get that long boy in there too. I don't think there were very many of those made, somewhere around a 100 or so. Kind of hard to find a price comparison as they just don't show up. I think I found one back a few years that sold for around $7500.
Cosine26
02-26-2015, 04:22
The number 100 sounds about correct but I am unable to confirm it. . They were made with both a 28" and a 30 " barrel. The 28" barrels sold out first and in the DCM page it was indicated that no more "T'S" would be manufactured until all the 30 " barreled rifles were sold. The Armory also sold "T" barreled actions for $41.25, and barrels for $36.40.FWIW
The were originally offer for sale in the February 1931 AR @ $85.00. In February of 1931 the DCM Notice in the AR indicated that there were still fifty-eight of the 30" T's available.
According to Roy Dunlap, when the 300 H&H became popular, many owners converted them to 300 H&H>
FWIW
Cosine, You are correct as per Brophy's section on the Model T. Also according to him, there were approximately 20 of the 26" barreled rifles made. A couple other things of note, again quoting Brophy, the front sight band was from a modified BAR and the upper band was made from a cut and re-welded model 1917 lower band. The stock was a model 1922 hogged out for the larger barrel and stock bolts added. These were targeted at 200 meters and averaged 10 shot groups of 2 1/4 inches. Many had headless cocking pieces but not all.
Your info is very accurate!
Kurt
chuckindenver
02-27-2015, 06:52
real deal, is on my list as a T
Southron
02-27-2015, 07:15
Well, the way I look at it is someone could probably make a "Quick Buck" by haggling down the shop owner to say $13,000.00 or $14,000.00 and buying the gun. Then putting it up for sale at Rock Island Auctions or a similar auction house. No telling what it would bring at auction. Also, before I would buy it from the shop, I would make darned sure that the rifle was correct and in the "correct serial number range" so I was confident I was buying an authentic piece and not a fake.
MoMallard
03-03-2015, 06:26
Is that the one at Great Northern Guns in Anchorage? If so, he came down about $4K from when I first saw it 2 years ago.
Is that the one at Great Northern Guns in Anchorage? If so, he came down about $4K from when I first saw it 2 years ago.
Yes, one and the same. They said the owner had dropped it 5k since consigning it. Not being familiar with any sales other than one or two several years ago, what kind of number would be appropriate.
Just recently an original Target rifle (SRS listed) was sold for $4000 after being long advertised for $8000 by a dealer.
I wouldn't mind adding that to the collection if the price was right. I don't think the gentleman is all that interested in selling it..:icon_rolleyes:
Cosine26
03-05-2015, 04:35
Style T M1903 SRS
According to BROPHY, there were 100 Style T rifles manufactured. In the original announcement in the AMERICAN RFLEMAN magazine, it was announced that the rifles would be built with either a 28" or 30" barrel. BROPHY indicates that there were 26 built with 26" Remington barrels. There was never any mention of 26" barrels in the AR. My copies of the AR are complete from 1927 to date.
In the latest SRS U.S. MARTIAL ARMS COLLECTOR MAGAZINE, SRS advertises
"For sale $9,200.00
"Model 1903 T model with Winchester 26-inch barrel " Documented sales rifle with Springfield sales documents".
FWIW
Brophy also writes that he owns a 26" model that's listed in the DMC records as a "special target" but is a model T. He also a 28" and 30" rifles as well, page 130 lower left column. He goes on to express his opinion on the listing records. I throw this out for discussion purposes.
Cosine, could you point me to the Remington barrels in 26" in Brophy?
Cosine26
03-06-2015, 11:47
Hi Kurt,
I do not know where I came up with the reference to Remington barrels with reference to the Style "T". BROPHY mention the 26" barrels on page 130 but does not mention the origin. I think I confused it (when writing from memory) with the other heavy barreled target rifles mentioned earlier in BROPHY which used Remington barrels.
Sorry about that.
The SRS ad mentions a Winchester barrel. I have not seen any data referencing either Winchester or Remington with regard to the Style T. I always thought they were manufactured by SA.
The picture used in the original Style "T" Notice in the AR is incorrect. It shows the Model 1922 target rifle not the "T".
Bill Wylde
03-06-2015, 01:06
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I'm still waiting for this old klunk to become a rarity. It may well have to become a part of my estate.:icon_lol:
Cosine26
03-06-2015, 02:30
Looks as if it has a Winchester barrel
It already is! I believe that it has already been identified as a 1924 International Match Rifle with an original Winchester barrel. No dimensions are given but it appears to have a 30 " barrel.
Special stocks, barrels and actions were available through the DCM in the 20's and 30's.
It's a beauty.
No sorry at all, it's darn confusing when you read about the many different variations involved. Interesting that the model T's in the listings I've found in the past all say they have a Winchester front sight. I only assume that's the sight itself as the band was supposedly adapted from a BAR rifle. I guess there just weren't enough of these to command the interest and info that many others do. They are one interesting gun and it would be a thrill to shoot.
Thanks to all that have weighed in! Bill, are you in to adoption? lol.
Kurt
Bill Wylde
03-08-2015, 08:55
Yes, this rifle is documented, Cosine. Sure would love to have the complete history on it. I do know that it was the property of the winner of the Marine Corp. Cup in 1940, but little else.
I'm in to adoption, Kurt............Paid adoption.
Many years ago I tried to track down a "T" here in Illinois. That never worked out, but sure wish it had.
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