M1-D garand original with Weaver K-4 stock

[oldtirediron]

sold pending funds

[Jay Johnson]

"What you see is what you will get!"

I'm interested, but no papers? If you bought it at Perry I would assume you have some paperwork documenting the sale.






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[oldtirediron]

sold pending funds

[musketshooter]

There is no record of any M1Ds being issued with weaver K-4 scopes. Post a picture of the cartouche on the left side of the butt. Where is the cheek pad? There should be a screw hole behind the bottom of the pistol grip. I t looks like you have an assembly of parts rather than an original rifle.

[gtodan]

I agree. Need more info and closeups to verify. If it is a CMP/DCM rifle you should be able to acquire the sale info from them. Mount is rare, scope not so.

[StockDoc]

The 1" scope mount?

[oldtirediron]

SOLD

[StockDoc]

Great deal!!!

[StockDoc]

There is no record of any M1Ds being issued with weaver K-4 scopes. Post a picture of the cartouche on the left side of the butt. Where is the cheek pad? There should be a screw hole behind the bottom of the pistol grip. I t looks like you have an assembly of parts rather than an original rifle.

yes, the issued close to 75 rifles. Good write up in Canfields book on them. said some were in lockers up to the early 90's

[swampyankee]

An M1D without paper work is only worth the some of the parts. If the buyer is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Future resale may be disappointing though.

[StockDoc]

An M1D without paper work is only worth the some of the parts. If the buyer is happy with his purchase, that's all that matters. Future resale may be disappointing though.

A CMP Request could get you the paper work. That mount is worth quite a bit, since they have not faked them yet. Some invest6igation may get him the paper trail he wants, or not.

[Cass]

That mount is worth quite a bit, since they have not faked them yet.

I agree they have not been faked in quantity, but I have seen a couple of repro 3/4" mounts that have been modified to fit a 1" weaver scope.

I would recommend a close examination on any 1" mount.

Cass

[StockDoc]

I agree they have not been faked in quantity, but I have seen a couple of repro 3/4" mounts that have been modified to fit a 1" weaver scope.

I would recommend a close examination on any 1" mount.

Cass

agreed, also read in Harrison's last night that the DCM put some together back in 1995, from parts they had on hand. Who knows if this was one of them,.

[jgaynor]

There used to be an article posted to the old version of CSP that stated the 1" / Weaver K4 version of the M1D was built during the 60's for use during civil disturbances in a counter sniper role.

Issue M1D's used scopes with a ⅞" diameter main tube (M73, M81, M82 or M84) and mounting bracket. Some early M1 Garand sniper prototypes were fitted with Weaver 330C's or M73B1 scopes (¾") tubes but these never saw issue and did not resemble the M1C or M1D.

[StockDoc]

There used to be an article posted to the old version of CSP that stated the 1" / Weaver K4 version of the M1D was built during the 60's for use during civil disturbances in a counter sniper role.

Issue M1D's used scopes with a ⅞" diameter main tube (M73, M81, M82 or M84) and mounting bracket. Some early M1 Garand sniper prototypes were fitted with Weaver 330C's or M73B1 scopes (¾") tubes but these never saw issue and did not resemble the M1C or M1D.

That is what Canfields Book states also that some were seen in Army Armouries as late as the early 90's with some reported to have been used in Desert Storm. (I have seen it reported on forums as well, was on the internet, so it must be true)

Hard to believe that they even thought of using snipers against protesters, no matter how violent they got. But then again there was Kent State.

[Andouille]

There were lots of "civil disturbances" by students protesting the Viet Nam war to be sure. But there were a fair number of urban riots with active shooters firing on police/National Guard types that had nothing directly to do with protesting the war.

Now as to whether or not the K4 equipped guns were assembled to deal with any of those or were assembled to augment declining stocks of other scopes, I have no idea.

[oldtirediron]

M1-D rifles with Weaver K-4's are a RARE bird no matter what-- I got this in 1991; so it was not put together, The TE-(Toolehe) Marks on the right front receiver leg was 8-66. These K-4 M1-D's have been seen in service in Denmark and the US Army and reserve and National Guard Units from the late 60's to the late 1990's--- So Nay sayers can spout their non-sense So for the sum of $4250.00 it was worth the sum of it's parts, go ahead and find another one, or even a 1 inch mount- BTW- If you know anything about a n M1-D, You can't fake a 1 inch mount; The original's are all the same and there are no aftermarket mounts

[StockDoc]

M1-D rifles with Weaver K-4's are a RARE bird no matter what-- I got this in 1991; so it was not put together, The TE-(Toolehe) Marks on the right front receiver leg was 8-66. These K-4 M1-D's have been seen in service in Denmark and the US Army and reserve and National Guard Units from the late 60's to the late 1990's--- So Nay sayers can spout their non-sense So for the sum of $4250.00 it was worth the sum of it's parts, go ahead and find another one, or even a 1 inch mount- BTW- If you know anything about a n M1-D, You can't fake a 1 inch mount; The original's are all the same and there are no aftermarket mounts

What reticle does the K-4 have> If you don't mind me asking

[Cass]

sold pending funds

Looks like whoever bought it has it up for sale.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=537251793

[jgaynor]

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Hard to believe that they even thought of using snipers against protesters, no matter how violent they got. But then again there was Kent State.

Kent State is a poor example. After the murder of Martin Luther King most of the major cities in the country were ablaze. During that same period their were numerous bombings (university campuses, the US Capitol, etc). Demonstrations and riots were a fairly regular occurrence mainly in response to US involvement in SE Asia.

If i recall the article on thee K4/M1D, in the old CSP, was penned by none other than the late Major Culver.

[StockDoc]

Kent State is a poor example. After the murder of Martin Luther King most of the major cities in the country were ablaze. During that same period their were numerous bombings (university campuses, the US Capitol, etc). Demonstrations and riots were a fairly regular occurrence mainly in response to US involvement in SE Asia.

If i recall the article on thee K4/M1D, in the old CSP, was penned by none other than the late Major Culver.

If I remember correctly, it was a little more then involvement in SE Asia. It was more about Drafting people for the war, foreign involvement in US politics and American involvement in foreign politics. Almost the same that is going on today.

That K4/M1D was actually apart of History and an important part of an collection.