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I began collecting New Zealand marked No 4 L.E.s some time ago. I've been looking for a Remington 1903 that was New Zealand marked. I finally landed that bird. The below pictured rifle was purchased about a month ago. The barrel and internals were covered in cosomoline that was still moist. The outer areas were covered in a thin layer of dry cosmoline with no wax paper. A previous owner had cleaned the cosmoline from the receiver serial number, barrel date,and New Zealand stamp. It took some time to get the wood grain to show after cleaning. The stock has some handling marks so I think this layer of cosmoline was what was put on the rifle when it was stored the last time, but that is a guess. The rifle is in very good shape and like many New Zealand Remington's appears to have not been issues. Some were issued in the Pacific theater, but many were held in reserve. Enjoy the pics.39030
The oiler I believe is the WW1 type when did the plastic oiler replace it.
Comments welcome
psteinmayer
12-29-2016, 05:17
Looks amazing! Being that I lived in Christchurch, NZ for a while, this is particularly interesting to me... as are all things Kiwi!
Brophy doesn't give a date but only says that the plastic oiler and thong kit was a WWII expedient. The plastic kits never actually replaced the metal ones which were, to use a military ordnance term "used until expended." Finding stuff in the butt trap is always a plus and those oiler ant thong kits aren't cheap. One of the things the CMP does with every rifle is to check for butt trap accessories when the rifle is inspected.
Rick the Librarian
12-29-2016, 06:46
Nice rifle! Is there a number (with a "N Z") stamped on the buttstock? I think John Beard has a data base of them.
Nice rifle! Is there a number (with a "N Z") stamped on the buttstock? I think John Beard has a data base of them.
Yes third to last picture it's 5187. Is it close the the one you have. All my other WWII N.Z guns are much higher than.
Brophy doesn't give a date but only says that the plastic oiler and thong kit was a WWII expedient. The plastic kits never actually replaced the metal ones which were, to use a military ordnance term "used until expended." Finding stuff in the butt trap is always a plus and those oiler ant thong kits aren't cheap. One of the things the CMP does with every rifle is to check for butt trap accessories when the rifle is inspected.
Thanks for the oiler info Art. I knew the Plastic oiler was WW2 but couldn't remember if the metal one was discontinued. The stock surprise can only be described as AWESOME.
Kragrifle
12-30-2016, 05:59
Very nice!
John Beard
12-31-2016, 07:40
Seasons' Greetings!
You have a splendid rifle. And it is indeed a Kiwi Remington. In case you're interested, the bolt assembly, magazine cutoff, and rear sight assembly have been replaced with parts from much later non-Kiwi rifles.
Thanks for sharing! And Happy New Year!
J.B.
Thanks JB, I new the bolt was not due to the electro pencil 0334. It should have had the KIWI number stamped on the stock stamped into it. As a side note most of my British No 4 Kiwi's lost their original bolt along the way so I'm not surprised this one did. The only one that stayed together was the No 4 I posted the same day as this rifle.
Magazine cut off I thought might be because if memory serves it should be blued, is that correct.
The rear sight assembly I did not catch.
Once I ungreased it I knew it was not the original grease based on what you have pointed out and obvious handling marks on the stock. It would be interesting to find out if it went anywhere else after the Kiwi's were done with it but as with most we will never know.
FWIW Many of these NZ Rem O3s came from CMP Via the Greek rifles they received. Mine was covered in a pink grease that was a bear to clean off. It was all original except the milled trigger guard had been replaced with a A3 version. An interesting rifle with much history. Truman
FWIW Many of these NZ Rem O3s came from CMP Via the Greek rifles they received. Mine was covered in a pink grease that was a bear to clean off. It was all original except the milled trigger guard had been replaced with a A3 version. An interesting rifle with much history. Truman
Interesting....I'll probably never find out for sure. This appeared to be regular brown cosmoline on this gun. What was in the barrel and action was still moist, but what was open to the air on the stock was very dry. The dry stuff was a PITA to get off.
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