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randy langford
01-05-2017, 07:42
The Trapdoor pictured is for sale locally the man thinks it is one of the rare carbine versions here is his description "It is chambered in 50/70. Very nice rifle for its age and still retains about 50% of the original bluing. These rifles where .58 caliber during the civil war then rechambered in 1870 to shoot the 50/70 cartridge. According to all the research I have done there was only 341 of these carbine models made with the 1863/1870 dates" I am thinking it is a cut down rifle.

Tkacook
01-05-2017, 08:57
I say cut down rifle too. The band and front sight tell me that. The 1866 models were modified CW rifles and .58 caliber barrels lined down to 50-70.

Here's a page on the model 1870 carbine.
http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/m70.html

Here's Dick Hosmer's 1870 carbine for reference.
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/9187668

butlersrangers
01-05-2017, 09:00
It looks like there is damage to this trap-door's receiver. Metal appears to be missing from the right 'hinge', that acts as a bearing & support for the tip of hinge pin and breech-block.

FWIW - This Springfield looks like a cut-down rifle to me. The barrel-band may be from a French Arm (?).

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Dick Hosmer
01-06-2017, 12:11
It is a butchered M1868 Rifle, not worth owning, even as a knockabout shooter, due to the damaged receiver.

randy langford
01-06-2017, 04:52
Thank you as I suspected not worth my time to go and look at .