Question on rear sling swivel ?

[RCS]

My photo shows a early Mark 1*** or Mark III cut-off, a steel but plate for the Mark 1 or Mark 1* and
a rear sling swivel.

Have received different answers concerning the identity of the rear sling swivel, can someone I.D. it.

Thanks,

Robert39458

[JB White]

Looks like the earlier swivel from the Lee Metford and early Long Lee Enfield rifles.
The buttplate appears to be the sheet metal type sans trap from a run of MLE MkI*'s
The cutoff is more towards the SMLE. Below is a photo of cutoffs from the early type used on the left, and the SMLE MkIII type on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/JBWhite/Cutoffs/cuttoffs.jpg


What have you heard from elsewhere?

[Merc]

I saw one for sale on eBay. Look under "Enfield sling swivels." Guy from Australia is selling it and said it's for a long Lee Enfield 303 MLE.

[p246]

I have a Mk 1* converted to a bayonet training rifle. The cut off in it looks exactly like yours and the one JB posted on the left he indicates is a Mk 1*. The sling swivel also looks the same as one I have in my parts bin and I have been told its for a Long Lee. JB has never led me wrong so I'm confident he's right. The guy I bought the swivel from used to collect long lees and L.E. carbines exclusively and knew his stuff also.

[RCS]

I got this Mark I*** from a friend that worked at Gun Digest many years ago, What caught my eye was the Mark 1 stock with the early
single screw sling swivel. As the serial number is G 839 (third serial number on the receiver, first two lined out) it could have been a
set-up to use rifle grenades and then rebuilt back to Mark I*** as there is faint wire wrap markings on the rear handguard, Fore-end is
modified Mark III3947339474

The Mark 1 swivel is different from the one in my first post (also some Martini rear swivels look a little like this one too)

[JB White]

You are on track surmising your MkI*** was probably a grenade rifle with the G prefix. The ER prefix rifles were typically left in MkI trim while the CR prefixed ones were upgraded to an SMLE profile.
There is a rather lengthy sticky thread over on Gunboards describing the differences and a few of the anomalies. "Fritz" is the go-to guy over there when it comes to Irish rifles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/JBWhite/No1MkI/No1Mk13star.jpg