Photos of my Militry Flintlocks

[cowtownscout]

Well seems everyone enjoys photos so I am going to post a presentation I made back in 2015 for the Boy Scout Venture Crew I work with. This was my second presentation for them. The first was an overview of US Military Long Arms but this one started at the beginning with Flintlocks. When I get a chance I will go outside and take more detailed photos of each arm like I did for the sniper rifles, BP Navy bolt guns and the Hall Arms.
Scout

Military Flintlock Long Arms Presentation
07/13/2015

European Armies: 1660 – 1840 (180 years)
Flintlock smooth bore muskets

1841 – 2015 (174 years)

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French & Indian War (American Colonies): 1756 – 1763 (7 years)
Seven Years War (Europe, Britain and France)
(Started with Washington attacking French in 1754 and losing)

Dutch Type IIB, circa 1750, .75 cal. FL
(British purchase sent to Colonies)

British Trade Gun (fowler), circa 1750 – 1760, .75 cal. FL

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American Revolutionary War: 1775 – 1782 (8 years)
1776 Declaration of Independence
1782 Peace Treaty signed, ratified 1783
4 years later – 1787 US Constitution signed, ratified 1788

American Assembled Fowler, circa 1720 – 1740, .75 cal. FL
(Used French parts)

British Shortland Pattern (Brown Bess) model 1768, .75 cal. FL
(American restocked and US Surcharged)

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French Charleville model 1763, .69 cal. FL
(American restocked)

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1777 Springfield Depot established by George Washington
1782 – 1842 powder magazine
1794 Congress establishes Springfield National Armory (closed in 1968)
(1795 first production of Charleville Pattern Musket (model 1795) patterned after French Charleville musket model 1768)

1796 Harpers Ferry National Armory established, built 1799 – 1801
(closed in 1861 during Civil War)
(1802 first production of Charleville Pattern Musket, model 1795)

HF model 1795 type II, dated 1809, .69 cal. FL

SF model 1795 type III, dated 1812 Lock/1813 Butt, .69 cal. FL

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War of 1812: 1812 – 1815 (3 years)
(The Star Spangled Banner written as poem in 1812 during battle)

HF model 1803 Rifle, dated 1819, .54 cal. FL

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SF model 1812, dated 1817, .69 cal. FL

HF Std. model 1815, dated 1816, .69 cal. FL

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[cowtownscout]

Between War of 1812 and Mexican American War: 1816-1845 (29 years)

HF model 1816, dated 1820, .69 cal. FL

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HF/Hall model 1819 Rifle, dated 1831, .52 cal. FL, breach loading rifle
(Breach loading Patten 1811, wait until after War of 1812, military contract 1819, took 5 years to make the tooling and machines for interchangeable parts, 1824 first rifle produced)

SF model 1822/28, dated 1833 Lock/1829 Barrel, .69 cal. FL

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SF model 1840, dated 1842 Lock/1843 Barrel, .69 cal. FL
(Last model of Flint Locks manufactured in National Armories,
Model 1842 was Percussion Lock)

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Republic of Texas: 1836 – 1845 (9 years)

1846 Texas Statehood

War with Mexico (Mexican American War): 1846 – 1848 (2 years)
(Direct result of annexing Texas as a US State - The peace treaty with Mexico set the southern border of the United States (and Texas) at the Rio Grande River. The US also received what is now California, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming.)

1849 Fort Worth Established
(Major Arnold and 2nd Dragoons, 1 of 7 posts in Texas)


Added the following Flintlock Arm after the presentation


SF model 1795 type I, undated (this type made from 1799 – 1805), .69 cal.

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This completes the front part of my collection with Flintlocks except for a Springfield model 1822 (1816 type II) dated from 1823 – 1829, browned finish

[03collector]

Nice collection, your 1795 type l you say is undated? Mine is dated on top of the butt plate 1802. But yours is not?

[03collector]

Your 1840 is it original flint or a reconversion. Those sre very rare today. Wish i had one the last one i saw went for 20k.

[03collector]

I see you have Pete's book on musket are the other ones George Moller's book? George is a great guy alway willing to help other collectors the same for Pete.

[Ken The Kanuck]

Thanks for sharing, great collection.

KTK

[cowtownscout]

Nice collection, your 1795 type l you say is undated? Mine is dated on top of the butt plate 1802. But yours is not?

Correct there is no date on the butt plate and no date that I could find anywhere on the arm.

[cowtownscout]

Your 1840 is it original flint or a reconversion. Those sre very rare today. Wish i had one the last one i saw went for 20k.

The person I purchased it from was not sure so I got it for a good price however I had a long time collector who also owns a firearms store which includes historical arms want to look it over. After examining it closely he is convinced it is still the original flint and has not been reconverted. He was exstatic to be holding the arm and had all of his employees come over and look at it. He told me I've got a very rare arm that is much more valuable than the Springfield model 1892 Krag with full length cleaning rod that I took to show him the same day.

[cowtownscout]

I see you have Pete's book on musket are the other ones George Moller's book? George is a great guy alway willing to help other collectors the same for Pete.

Yes those are two of Peter's flintlock books and two of Moller's books, I've got all 3 volumes of moller's shoulder arms books. They are excellent reference books, a library of information is most valuable and I'm a history nut anyway.

[Dan Shapiro]

Nice collection! I also put on presentations for the local high schools that have ROTC programs. The presentation has evolved over the years; from one day to two in order to cover 1776 through the Cold War.

[Dan Shapiro]

What do you think of this offer on Gunbroker?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/650281570

[cowtownscout]

What do you think of this offer on Gunbroker?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/650281570

Hi Dan
It's cheaper than what I payed for mine back in 2013. There is really only 5 photos that are not repeats and most of them are not real clear and are on the dark side. That broken stock repair is fairly large but I've got quit a few of my arms that have some kind of period repair and show use as compared to pristine examples. I like the used look myself. If you are really interested in it you should ask for some more photos be emailed to you showing the whole rifle including the top of the breach to see if the lettering can be read. I've seen more than a few that were unreadable with the Hall name or date. Would also be good for you to see some with the action open so that you know what condition that part is in. I'm guessing you really intended to ask this at the end of the Hall photos instead of the flintlock photos.
Scout

[Dan Shapiro]

Thanks! Yep, sent an email requesting more pics and info. No response....which leads me to believe it's junk, or the seller is an idiot.

[cowtownscout]

Discovered a work around for the Photo Bucket ransom on another forum and am slowly working to fix my threads with photos.
Scout