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Ken The Kanuck
09-08-2017, 07:30
I forget the exact quote but it goes something like this 'those who are willing to give up their freedom for security, shall have neither'

KTK

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-41196637
phil441
09-08-2017, 08:33
I thought the Aussies were brighter than that. Or as Mr Trump would tweet....SAD.
leftyo
09-08-2017, 08:37
nope, theyve been brainwashed. even their conservatives are what most of us would consider liberals.
SloopJohnB
09-08-2017, 08:39
I forget the exact quote but it goes something like this 'those who are willing to give up their freedom for security, shall have neither'

KTK

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-41196637

Reportedly, the actual quote, attributed to Ben Franklin, is: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

And, giving away a Luger??? That's just wrong!
swampyankee
09-08-2017, 09:44
I wonder how many terrorist and gangsters handed in their unregistered firearms?
dryheat
09-08-2017, 10:43
Aren't Australians kind of British?
1563621
09-09-2017, 03:42
Reportedly, the actual quote, attributed to Ben Franklin, is: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

And, giving away a Luger??? That's just wrong!

Giving away a Luger and a 1911? Cruel!
Chaz
09-09-2017, 10:27
It's stupid!
Major Tom
09-10-2017, 04:02
Unbelieveably STUPID!!
blackhawknj
09-10-2017, 02:05
They have become a surveillance and snitch society. And seem to have lost a lot of their manliness.
togor
09-10-2017, 05:50
Well they are following their laws. Better late than never, right? Yes we agree their laws seem unnecessarily restrictive, but for the moment that's their law. I assume no one here has any off-grid Class 3 items in their root cellar. I know I don't.
Bill D
09-10-2017, 06:55
I don't either. Last week I was crossing 11 - mile reservoir with all my firearms in a leaky canoe and . . . . Well, you know, the wind came up and . . . . I was lucky to have made it ashore after the canoe swamped. . . .

Well, bottom line, I lost Daddy's old Remington 511 that I had had since 1989 and the .22 pellet rifle that my wife owned when we got married.

Honest!
S.A. Boggs
09-11-2017, 07:22
Well they are following their laws. Better late than never, right? Yes we agree their laws seem unnecessarily restrictive, but for the moment that's their law. I assume no one here has any off-grid Class 3 items in their root cellar. I know I don't.
Honestly if you did would you admit it if you did?
Sam
togor
09-11-2017, 09:41
Honestly if you did would you admit it if you did?
Sam

No, but my experience with gun owners is that they try to respect the laws even if they don't like them. Stupid to lose access to what you can legally own out of a desire for a really short barreled shotgun, that even if it saves your life, will end your ownership rights to everything. To me the downside risk to illegal ownership does not make sense. But you are correct if you point out that others may see it differently.