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"Anyone who disrespects the American Flag has never been handed a folded one"
F*#k the NFL :icon_salut:
barretcreek
09-24-2017, 07:35
They have every right to do their protest thing. And people have every right to boycott them and THEIR SPONSORS.
They have every right to do their protest thing. And people have every right to boycott them and THEIR SPONSORS.
Man that's a lot of beer brands....tongue in cheek by the way.
The NFL needs to see a few empty stadiums and lose a few sponsors. I aim to do my part.
clintonhater
09-24-2017, 08:30
If you're living in a place where you sincerely feel oppressed & subjected to discrimination, and just happen to be a multimillionaire with a US passport, what are you waiting around for? The Mother Country is just a 1st Class ticket (or private jet!) away.
clintonhater
09-24-2017, 08:32
The NFL needs to see a few empty stadiums and lose a few sponsors. I aim to do my part.
I've been doing my part all my life, as I HATE football!
"Anyone who disrespects the American Flag has never been handed a folded one"
F*#k the NFL :icon_salut:
Or folded one, or carried a casket draped by one- and most likely don't know anyone who has.
Four days from today will be the 12th anniversary of the deaths of five soldiers from my battalion in Iraq. Any one of those five men was worth a million of these dipsh!ts who "take a knee."
Give them football. - Augustus Caesar.
AZshooter
09-25-2017, 12:34
When I dine out, I'm paying for meal service & not for some treatise of Gay or Transgender anatomy, religious or political discourse. Same with sports. I pay to watch the game. In either case, if they stray the boundary & become an annoyance, they get no repeat business from me.
NASCAR supports Trump's stance on respecting the USA; NFL doesn't. Guess who I won't be watching anymore nor supporting their advertisers.
JB White
09-25-2017, 01:31
After today I'll NEVER watch a Pittsburgh Steelers game again. This irked me in a "Hanoi Jane" kind of way. If this trend continues I'll be boycotting the entire NFL which includes not wearing or using any product with any NFL logo, or endorsement.
"We don't want to be involved...." is total BS. They chose their side and it isn't the side of Mr & Mrs America.
There are some who don't follow the pack
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/24/alejandro-villanueva-defies-steelers-anthem-protest-takes-field-hand-heart/
3%
Apparently caught hell from his coach also.
Griff Murphey
09-25-2017, 06:32
The Dallas ABC affiliate took a telephone poll at last night's ten o'clock news. 36 percent supported the NFL "It's ok to disrespect our Anthem and flag..." thing.
64 pct. support President Trump's take!
The NFL could have stopped all this - these people are paid to perform. While performing you follow work requirements. So NFL could have said stand during the playing of the anthem or don't suit up. And if you don't suit up without a work acceptable excuse - you're fired.
But they didn't - therefore it shows they are just as bad as so many other places - they are letting the inmates run the asylum. They are bowing to the god of politically correct sensitivity.
What is nice is seeing them pay the price for it. They are more afraid of their product than their customers.
Vote with your wallets gentlemen - it works
Steve
Vern Humphrey
09-25-2017, 08:13
Football players are entertainers. They are no different from ballet dancers or rock singers. An entertainer who insults the fans is an entertainer who will lose money.
Dick Hosmer
09-25-2017, 08:32
I'm reminded of the motto of the OFC, reported to have been pronounced by the Duke's dying uncle.
After today I'll NEVER watch a Pittsburgh Steelers game again. This irked me in a "Hanoi Jane" kind of way. If this trend continues I'll be boycotting the entire NFL which includes not wearing or using any product with any NFL logo, or endorsement.
"We don't want to be involved...." is total BS. They chose their side and it isn't the side of Mr & Mrs America.
Tomlin held a team meeting Saturday night and discovered that the united front the Steelers had the first two games against the protesters was crumbling and some of the players were going to protest. This severely divided the team which includes a war hero Al Valeneuva who had multiple tour of Afghanistan as an Army Ranger and was a recipient of the bronze star for bravery. Tomlin made the decision that the team would not participate in the national anthem instead of allowing some team members to protest causing further division and a distraction from the game. It obviously didn't work since they lost.
Seattle's coach also didn't allow his team on the field until the anthem was played. Keeping the team off the field for the playing of the national anthem might be a sign of the times since it will deprive the millionaires who play a game for a living the chance to display their displeasure at the police for trying to do their job instead of trying to be a positive roll model for their brethren.
The liberal owners are going along with the protests may be the worst possible thing that can happen to the NFL besides the concussion lawsuits. The silent majority as usual will have the final verdict as to whether to stay glued to the tv or do something else on Sunday. I didn't watch any Steeler games last year and none so far this year - AND I'M FROM PITTSBURGH!
Millionaire arrested adolescents playing a children's game. Mind you, The Donald shouldn't be arguing with 'em either.
"...and THEIR SPONSORS..." https://www.nflpa.com/players/sponsors
Anheuser-Busch makers of that stuff they call beer. There's no rice in beer. Kinda like to know how they got the horse to drink the stuff they double filter, twice too.
Millionaire arrested adolescents playing a children's game. Mind you, The Donald shouldn't be arguing with 'em either.
"...and THEIR SPONSORS..." https://www.nflpa.com/players/sponsors
Anheuser-Busch makers of that stuff they call beer. There's no rice in beer. Kinda like to know how they got the horse to drink the stuff they double filter, twice too.
Boycotting the NFL sponsors shouldn't be too difficult for me since the only one I currently deal with is Visa. If words alone don't get the league's attention, latest tv ratings for Sunday sure will. They showed a 10% drop compared to Sunday a year ago. Evidently, some fans have found other things to do. The cost of showing the sponsor's ads are based on the number of people watching the game. The NFL will have to pay some of that money back due to the lower ratings. The situation will be made worse if the sponsors see a corresponding dip in sales, suspect a boycott and start bailing out. The money the owners get from the tv package allows those huge salaries to exist. It can all be in danger unless the protests stop. Are the owners and protester smart enough to realize this?
Vern Humphrey
09-25-2017, 12:06
Boycotting the NFL sponsors shouldn't be too difficult for me since the only one I currently deal with is Visa. If words alone don't get the league's attention, latest tv ratings for Sunday sure will. They showed a 10% drop compared to Sunday a year ago. Evidently, some fans have found other things to do. The cost of showing the sponsor's ads are based on the number of people watching the game. The NFL will have to pay some of that money back due to the lower ratings. The situation will be made worse if the sponsors see a corresponding dip in sales, suspect a boycott and start bailing out. The money the owners get from the tv package allows those huge salaries to exist. It can all be in danger unless the protests stop. Are the owners and protester smart enough to realize this?
The most common sponsor of NFL games is Verizon, followed by Bud Light, McDonalds, IBM, Subway and Ford.
I don't know if it was televised but it was reported that the Cincinnati Bengals all stood and locked arms during the anthem.
Vern Humphrey
09-25-2017, 12:47
Can anyone verify that? If so, we should send them a thankyou.
JB White
09-25-2017, 04:00
They played the Packers in Green Bay. I'll bet the Pack was out there on the field.
JB White
09-25-2017, 04:08
Apparently there was quite a bit of kneeling, sitting, raising fists and locking of arms. From what I gather...which I don't really, the actions are mixed in meaning.
I'd hold off on saying 'thanks' until we know for certain what was meant by it. After all it was "Hate Trump Weekend" on the left. So what solidarity were they displaying?
Former Cav
09-25-2017, 04:24
I see it as an INSULT to EVERY soldier and EVERY veteran. Reminds me of all those azzholes who harassed us when we came back from Vietnam. I got harassed right out of a job. I posted this out on the web in numerous places and I stand behind it (below)
The only thing I can add to my commentary below is that the baseball players play with even SMALLER BALLS!! PUNKS, every one of em! Makes me wonder if the "golfers" are next!!
FOLLIES is what I call ABC's (and the rest of the SLIMESTREAM MEDIA) version of "world news"
According to those LIARS, 60 percent of the people agree with the NFL players and all that.
I'd like to WRITE to the local RAG newspaper the Arizona REPUGNANT but I'm sure they'd EDIT my note to make 180 degrees opposite of what I mean or not publish it at all..
Basically: To all the NFL players!
you make what ?? 1 to 20 million and year and you are telling us how you are "deprived" ?
TOO BAD. I've got news for you CLOWNS who play with LITTLE BALLS..... and are exorbitantly overpaid...
The LOWEST PRIVATE in the US Military is much more of a PATRIOT then you PUNKS would ever be!
TOO bad some of you PUNKS were not around in 1965 when you'd get DRAFTED when you were 18 and sent over seas and you made a whole $120 month (they had to promote you to PFC E-3 after a while to send you into the combat in Vietnam. I think that was maybe 1966 or 67. Before that you could go as a PVT E2 on your whole approx $90 a month plus $65 combat pay. An E1 was a Trainee in Basic Combat Training).
TOO BAD you PUNKS never had to face the DRAFT!!
FUNNY THING, even though I got sent into harms way twice (1965-66 to So Korea and 67-8 for Vietnam.... BTW... I signed up for Armored Europe as I fancied myself drinking fine German Beers and chasing fine German Frauleins......imagine that...I was politically incorrect even back then....grin)
Even though both tours were considered a "hardship tour", I never considered myself as deprived!!!
maybe hunted.....but not deprived!
What a bunch of "SORRY PUNKS who PLAY with little BALLS"
You can copy, cut and paste (NOT EDIT) as much as you want. SCREW the NFL and others who play with little BALLS!!
Sincerely,
Bob Schneider
PS. CCing to myself so you "honest news media types" can't change it!!
Can anyone verify that? If so, we should send them a thankyou.
Here you go. Scroll down to the 2nd picture.
http://www.whio.com/sports/bengals-kneel-for-national-anthem-many-players-coaches-lock-arms/oU8aBJqPBYwMc5vnPs4QTK/amp.html
They played the Packers in Green Bay. I'll bet the Pack was out there on the field.
Martellus Bennett, whose brother had a run in with the LVPD, sat. Two teammates sat with him. The rest of GB linked arms for unity. GB mgmt says it's a free country.
NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives. NFL locker rooms are also melting pots in a way that most of society isn't. Into the middle of this walks Trump with his usual subtlety.
JB White
09-26-2017, 04:19
Martellus Bennett, whose brother had a run in with the LVPD, sat. Two teammates sat with him. The rest of GB linked arms for unity. GB mgmt says it's a free country.
NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives. NFL locker rooms are also melting pots in a way that most of society isn't. Into the middle of this walks Trump with his usual subtlety.
Really? Don't try to justify it. If any of us did something on that order to make our employers look bad we'd be out the door. The NFL isn't the only "melting pot" out there. This all started with one opinion based on revisionist history, misinformation, and racism. Now it's a trend and a very offensive one at that.
Really? Don't try to justify it. If any of us did something on that order to make our employers look bad we'd be out the door. The NFL isn't the only "melting pot" out there. This all started with one opinion based on revisionist history, misinformation, and racism. Now it's a trend and a very offensive one at that.
Read into my post what you like JB. But don't misrepresent what I wrote, because that's Red's job. I categorically did not say the NFL is the only melting pot. But for racial and geographic diversity it's tough to beat a pro sports locker room. The arm linking (since someone asked) was about a public display of unity in the face of outside events.
And what am I not supposed to justify? Freedom of expression? Since when? They express their feelings, you express yours, we stop short of violence. I was taught that is how it works. No longer true? I sincerely hope not.
clintonhater
09-26-2017, 05:48
NFL players have short careers in one of the most brutal occupations in existence. Contracts are not guaranteed, you can be cut at any time. The game is violent, often leaving those who play it affected for the rest of their lives.
Boo-hoo, poor unfortunate SOBs! So were they tricked into signing those contracts, and compelled against their will to accept more dough in a few yrs than most of will see in a lifetime, or two? (Not to mention the fringe-benefit of all the knockout white sluts they can pound.)
One of the most brutal occupations in existence? Wonder what the thousands of legless or armless or otherwise maimed Iraq & Afghan vets think about that.
Trump did the country a service by making mindlessly sports-addicted America take note (I hope!) of the kind of pampered, overpaid SOBs their ticket prices have been supporting.
Vern Humphrey
09-26-2017, 08:02
Really? Don't try to justify it. If any of us did something on that order to make our employers look bad we'd be out the door. The NFL isn't the only "melting pot" out there. This all started with one opinion based on revisionist history, misinformation, and racism. Now it's a trend and a very offensive one at that.
Don't feed the trolls.
swampyankee
09-26-2017, 11:08
I can think of a hell of a lot of occupations that are a lot more dangerous than playing a kids game with a ball and they pay a hell of a lot less. The lowly buck private or squid or fisherman have a lot more balls than these pampered brats. They get paid enough money, if the USA is so bad and racist they can get on a plane and move back to Africa,no one is stopping them. They can start their own league and be highly respected by their new country men, as long they're of the right tribe and they don't get thrown in prison or beheaded. But at least it would be by their own kind and no racism would be involved. I gave up watching these idiots 40 years ago and baseball after they went on strike. If you want to enjoy a ball game go to a high school game as these kids are actually trying before they get dainted.
It's time to vote with your feet and wallet. Find something else to do on Sunday.
My grandkids played in their HS marching band and we never missed a Friday night home game in six years. The kids playing football at that level were surprisingly good and great fun to watch.
m1ashooter
09-26-2017, 01:13
Locking arms is also a sign of protest. They are showing unity in the face of the comments by the President. They are not locking arms out of respect to the National Anthem but locking arms to show their support for each other in defiance to the Presidents comments.
clintonhater
09-26-2017, 01:29
They get paid enough money, if the USA is so bad and racist they can get on a plane and move back to Africa,no one is stopping them...
Not necessary to go there, though English is the common language in several countries, because anybody with a US passport and a million $ in the bank is a "citizen of the world," welcomed everywhere. In Europe, especially, they'd be lionized as Trump-haters, with a bounty of beautiful bimbos lining up to partake of their services.
SO glad Trump called them SOBs (though I wish he'd said "ungrateful SOBs"), as that has REALLY stirred up the left-wing!
Vern Humphrey
09-26-2017, 01:36
What I wish he'd do is call on them to acknowledge and support and be a father to their out-of-wedlock children.
Do something different Sunday afternoon; take a kid fishing or take them shooting
S.A. Boggs
09-26-2017, 03:24
What I wish he'd do is call on them to acknowledge and support and be a father to their out-of-wedlock children.
Wouldn't their rap sheets be interesting!
Sam
JB White
09-26-2017, 03:42
Locking arms is also a sign of protest. They are showing unity in the face of the comments by the President. They are not locking arms out of respect to the National Anthem but locking arms to show their support for each other in defiance to the Presidents comments.
That's where I was going with one of my previous posts. Wasn't sure at the time whether it was a display of respect or a unified protest. The press was very careful and the initial comments were vague.
Don't think I'll be sending them a 'thank you' note anytime soon.
Given the costs of taking a family to see a nfl game, would have to think that it's not a matter for blue collar families to consider. The ones who will have to stop funding these teams are the people who can blow such money on entertainers such as nfl players. Of course a lot of the income for the teams is beyond ticket sales. If and when corporations stop pouring in the cash, then the teams will feel the pinch in their checking account. For my part, stopped following football back about 1982. Don't know why. Just did. Have not ever felt I was missing anything. Now ... sure of it. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
Vern Humphrey
09-26-2017, 05:09
You know, a long time ago, sports figures were respected in this country -- they were role models for young people. That's why football, baseball, and so on are exempt from the anti-trust laws.
The time has come for us to realize sports figures have let us down, and stop giving them special treatment.
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