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Well, one of our Collies and I have been sitting out back, keeping an eye out for chicken huntin foxes. I'm just kicking up dirt around them to discourage them from getting too close. I don't shoot with the dog out here, we're just looking right now.
There're lots of rabbits and mice out and about. They can feed their young just fine way down yonder. 43396
Oh my jolly golly that thing looks like it'd be a lot of fun! How does it work for you when potting a varmint? Sincerely. bruce.
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Hope the muzzle blast from that fine rifle doesn’t hurt the dog’s hearing!
Hopefully, you take the dog’s hearing into consideration when you “touch ‘er off”!
Oh, I'm not shooting now, just using the scope to look for coyote's and Fox. The dog's eyes are sharp at picking out movement. Later, I'll frighten them off with close shots off to the side.
I don't consider them a threat to us. No need to kill. I just remind them to keep their distance around our ranch. It's fun.
They keep the dogs sharp and on their toes too.
This rifle itself is, as most of you already know, an unworn and unaltered or updated WWI manufactured1903 with all original parts. Mint bore.
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Anyway, I just used this little table to set the rifle on while I photographed it. It's obviously not a shooting table. LOL
I like the way this table reflects light. It helps me photograph the rifle. Pretty neat.
Could not open attachment. Belding and Mull mount? How well does that work? None of my ‘03s are drilled for scopes and I am going to be needing this soon, so curious about how well a bolt on would work.
Belding and Mull! Thank you for reminding me of the model name of this mount.
I've been having some difficulty with my memory of late.
I don't know of any other such B and M mounts out there except for just one other a fella owns. If you need one soon, good luck in finding one.
There is also another type of mount that fits in place of the rear sight and requires no drilling and tapping of the rifle. It's an Older type of mount that B-Square made up to Around 30 years ago. It is NOT the common mount designed for 1903A3's. It was designed specifically and Only for a classic 1903. I'll post a photo here in a few minutes of one of the several I have. I bought out the last few remaining such mounts from an old inventory of a closed shop. They've not been made or available for decades. Nobody I know is familiar with such a rare mount today.
Odd that nobody else paid any attention to them. Their loss.
Years ago I Gave one to a guy I know at a gun show. I knew he'd never be able to find another. He acted like he couldn't have cared less about it and didn't even thank me. I quit being a such a nice guy after that.
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cplnorton
04-14-2018, 10:57
There was a really famous no drill mount back in the day. It preceded this Bedding and Mull, and was trialed as a potential sniper rifle by the Marines and Army. It was the knoble Scope mount.
The remarks are always very positive on it. I think the only reason it wasn't utilized more was there really wasn't a need as it came out post WWI.
This is the Knoble sight mount. I can't remember where I got this honestly. It might have been from Andrew. But I know they are pictured and talked about everywhere back then. But to be safe I rollmarked with Andrew's name.
https://i.imgur.com/brtYCqJ.jpg
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By the way Fred, a Bedding and Mull scope and mount just popped up. IT's a different design than this above, with a backstory it was in a Marine trials in the late 20's. I don't know about the story on the trials, as I've never seen a mention of it. But it's sort of a neat design. I will ask the owner if he minds me post pics.
Wow! Thanks Steve!
Id like to see a picture or pictures of that Belding and Mull!
Pete Davis
04-14-2018, 01:39
A few years ago I made up a M1903 scoped unit from a rifle that had been drilled and tapped, into the right wood and put a Lyman AK on it. It's an April of 1918. Really accurate.
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Pete, I'll bet you built that stone building in the background. Pretty neat!
Pete, if that is the serial no of your rifle on the target I have its sibling, 905xxx. It is no longer stock condition-SA 42 barrel and dt for a lyman 48 and is fitted with a damond traistor (sp?) trigger. It was my starting out high power competition rifle for a long time. My club team mates rolled their eyes when i showed up with a ‘relic’ but I pointed out that ‘it has a new barrel!’-they werent impressed. It shoots pretty well tho I am going to need a scope soon to hold up my end.
Bob
Cplnorton, does the rear part of the knoble just drop down onto the rear reciever bridge or is there a clamp of some sort? There was a Van Wie mount similar to this one shown in Brophys book-the long bar part that spans the magazine was bent down slightly and acted as a spring to lock it in place. Brophy made no comment on how well it (or knoble) worked in practice.
Fred and Pete, any problems with the high mount and cheek position on the stock? With full power loads it looks like it might be painful to shoot?
cplnorton
04-14-2018, 07:07
Cplnorton, does the rear part of the knoble just drop down onto the rear reciever bridge or is there a clamp of some sort? There was a Van Wie mount similar to this one shown in Brophys book-the long bar part that spans the magazine was bent down slightly and acted as a spring to lock it in place. Brophy made no comment on how well it (or knoble) worked in practice.
Andrew found a 1923 Sniper rifle trials, and it has several very detailed pics of the mount. It looks like it is made from spring steel, and it's normally curved. So you put it in rear Sight base, and then it would be putting pressure on the rear to keep it in place.
It's a really very simple, but ingenious design.
Credit goes to Andrew for this one. This is from a report he found.
https://i.imgur.com/zzuwDoHh.jpg
Fred and Pete, any problems with the high mount and cheek position on the stock? With full power loads it looks like it might be painful to shoot?
No problems. I brace the rifle against my shoulder as usual and take my shot. My jaw, though positioned higher up on the stock, feels just fine.
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Andrew found a 1923 Sniper rifle trials, and it has several very detailed pics of the mount. It looks like it is made from spring steel, and it's normally curved. So you put it in rear Sight base, and then it would be putting pressure on the rear to keep it in place.
It's a really very simple, but ingenious design.
Credit goes to Andrew for this one. This is from a report he found.
https://i.imgur.com/zzuwDoHh.jpg
That is a Neat mount!
A few years ago I made up a M1903 scoped unit from a rifle that had been drilled and tapped, into the right wood and put a Lyman AK on it. It's an April of 1918. Really accurate.
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Pete, I'll bet that rifle is fun to shoot.
Pete Davis
04-15-2018, 11:33
No real problems shooting it. I like the Lyman AK. The straight stock feels good to me. I have a scoped "C" rifle and a scant A4 as well. They all shoot well. When I was 46 I killed a deer at 80 yards with the issue sights from a 1918 RIA. Nowadays (58) a scope is indicated.
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Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
04-18-2018, 08:32
No real problems shooting it. I like the Lyman AK. The straight stock feels good to me. I have a scoped "C" rifle and a scant A4 as well. They all shoot well. When I was 46 I killed a deer at 80 yards with the issue sights from a 1918 RIA. Nowadays (58) a scope is indicated.
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The Armory still looks like a work of art. Any new projects?
Pete Davis
04-20-2018, 07:36
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Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
04-20-2018, 02:16
As Gorgeous would say, "Do you consider yourself an artist or a craftsman"?
Nice pick on that keystone.
Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
04-20-2018, 08:03
Pete's skill with stone is legendary.
Pete Davis
04-21-2018, 07:21
Artist? Craftsman? Parolee!!!
J/K
I knapped a quartzite broadblade with a dogwood billet, and inlaid it into the piece.
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