USMC Rock Island rifle check

[dcm450shtr@gmail.com]

Good day all, About a year ago a friend in New Mexico contacted me about a possible USMC '03 he had found. After contacting John Beard about the particulars of the rifle I bought it and since have been doing research into it. Here are some of the things I have found-

RIA Serial #- 367679, Receiver has Hatcher hole bored in it, S/A 8/42 barrel in very good condition, bolt is a Remington with the #828911 electro penciled on the bolt body. The barrel has pipe wrench marks on it from removal/installation. The stock is the "S" type with "P" proof stamped behind trigger guard and it is in pretty good condition, with a N/M butt plate that is also stippled. Anything someone could add to help with learning the history of this rifle would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bill

[cplnorton]

Sounds like a very classic rebuild. The Remington bolt that is serialed is sort of interesting. You don't see that often.

Is the buttplate the coarse type? I've seen the early style checked that were also stippled, but haven't seen the heavy coarse, often referred to as the NM style stippled. That is a new one to me.

The Marines actually in the 30's used to mill the flat buttplates into a checkered pattern. This was of course before the stippling as the stippling seems to have been done in WWII era just to save time.

[cplnorton]

367321 020923new mexico mil inst
367323 032524hq co 13th engr (surveyed)
367368 031432vt ng (surveyed)
367619 021532usmc
367723 052035florida ng
367723 070235florida ng
367748 020923new mexico mil inst


828645 022439USMC - SAN DIEGO
828676 090737USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY)
828725 071530USMC - NICARAGUA
828820 041132USMC
828821 060530USMC
828899 062331USMC
828899 011438USMC - SAN DIEGO (SURVEY)
829012 041431USMC - PEARL HARBOR
829077 011038UCLA
829135 082138USMC - TIENTSIN
829163 061639USMC - TIENTSIN
829198 050340USMC - NY NAVY YARD
829259 090338USMC - SAN DIEGO
829271 031627USATC - HQ CO 15TH INF
829456 082438USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY

[Emri]

Sounds like a very classic rebuild. The Remington bolt that is serialed is sort of interesting. You don't see that often.

One of mine, SA # 984656, SA 7-27 bbl., has a Remington bolt with rifle number on it.

FYI,

Emri

[dcm450shtr@gmail.com]

Steve, Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. The butt plate on the rifle is not the coarse one, it is the finer checked butt plate. It only has about 10 center punch marks on it and they are closer to the edge of the plate. The marks are no longer sharp, they have been worn down. I had some doubts about the rifle, especially the Remington bolt, but after contacting J.B. he told me that the information I had supplied showed to him that it was a USMC '03. I wondered about the bolt, but John said that the USMC did not worry too much about mixing parts as long as the rifle functioned and gaged alright that in their eyes it was good to re-issue after it was rebuilt.
Regards, Bill

[LAH]

How about rifle number SA 1024223? :hello:

44727

[cplnorton]

How about rifle number SA 1024223?

That is a very good range. What are the details of it?

1023840 013031USMC - HAITI
1023895 051831USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
1023905 101043USS BREESE (DM18) TO EPIC 73
1024099 030431USMC - PEARL HARBOR
1024213 052631USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
1024218 041239USMCR - SEATTLE
1024251 101043USS BREESE (DM18) TO EPIC 73
1024258 050232USMC - PEARL HARBOR
1024272 101937USMC - SAN DIEGO (SURVEY)

[lyman]

wondering if it is a Greek Return rifle?
I have seen a handful of those that had a serial number (usually matching the receiver) electro penned on the bolt body

[pickax]

The greek serial numbers I've seen were EP'd on the top of the bolt handle.

[LAH]

That is a very good range. What are the details of it?

1023840 013031USMC - HAITI
1023895 051831USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
1023905 101043USS BREESE (DM18) TO EPIC 73
1024099 030431USMC - PEARL HARBOR
1024213 052631USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
1024218 041239USMCR - SEATTLE
1024251 101043USS BREESE (DM18) TO EPIC 73
1024258 050232USMC - PEARL HARBOR
1024272 101937USMC - SAN DIEGO (SURVEY)

cplnorton

Don't know much about it. I spied it on RIA auction set for 03 Jan. They say
it has a SA 10-42 barrel. I do own SA 1025654. Mine has a SA 12-27 barrel and
stippled BP.

44852448534485444855

[LAH]

Wonder if this serial number shows up on your lists? Has the Hatcher Hole. Thanks :hello:

44912

[Mike D]

Wonder if this serial number shows up on your lists? Has the Hatcher Hole. Thanks :hello:

44912

Not in the four SRS books that I have.

Mike

[LAH]

Thanks Mike


45022

[LAH]

Does Springfield SN 372580 show up as a USMC?
Thank you.

45046

[John Beard]

SA SN 372580 is surrounded by USMC rifles in SRS, but that particular serial number is not listed.

J.B.

[LAH]

SA SN 372580 is surrounded by USMC rifles in SRS, but that particular serial number is not listed.

J.B.

Thank you John.

The barrel is looks like A A? 11 -18. must be A V but sure looks like AA. And the
receiver has the hatcher hole on the left side.

45048

[John Beard]

It's a poorly-stamped Avis barrel. Just because the rifle is not SRS listed to the USMC doesn't mean that it's not a USMC rifle. And presence of a Hatcher Hole alone doesn't conclusively indicate a USMC rifle, but it's certainly a place to start looking for other USMC characteristics.

J.B.