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P51MUSTANG
09-12-2018, 04:09
HI,



What is the going price o a non matching non Russian capture war time German K98 these days? TIA///

togor
09-12-2018, 07:18
All matching #'s with no duffle cut? Early-to-midwar in decent condition? North of $1500 I'd say, if you can find one for sale.

togor
09-12-2018, 06:39
There's an Oberndorf 1942 in a true auction on GB right now.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/785554023

dave
09-19-2018, 12:20
Some of the "last ditch" examples are the most expensive, because they are very rare. Duffle cuts are evidence of GI 'bring back' and are easily repaired. At any rate I have not seen any for sale in ages. (auctions aside). I do a lot of gun shows, some are real collector groups. Most matched examples are resting in collections.

togor
09-21-2018, 03:47
Dave, any chance we can get you to talk about one of your more interesting specimens?

dave
09-22-2018, 11:39
I could show pic's of my small collection but that brings out the 'experts' who point out there faults (like they would not have it in their collection). One of my interesting ones is one made for the China contract, Chinese symbols, proofs intact. It never went to China (Japan complained) and was issued to the German North Sea fleet. M/M bolt. Anther is a 100% match K98k with Mauser banner receiver, rifle made about 1941-1942, receiver must have been from the '30's. Several of these came in with RC imports. Mine did not as I have had it for years.
Tried to post a pic. but system has changed and could not do so.
A non-detail pic of my K98k's can be seen in post below titled "drool".

dave
10-01-2018, 05:32
No comments? Or was this just a "gotcha" request? I have couple other scarce models. But most are just run of the mill 'bring backs'.

togor
10-08-2018, 01:17
Oh! I guess the only comment would be: nice job! Younger guy question for you-- There was a time when bringbacks weren't that big a deal. Sure they were cool to some but the market was limited. It's different now. Would you say there was a moment in time when it started to take off? I've heard it said that SPR bumped demand. I don't know about that, but I do think the internet did raise it. Any thoughts?

Tuna
10-08-2018, 05:39
It's surprising the market for 98's has taken off the way it has. Even the RC models are selling for stupid money now. Even WW2 German handguns are jumping up in price. P-38's, Lugers (both wars) and just about anything else with a swastika on it.

togor
10-09-2018, 06:04
It's surprising the market for 98's has taken off the way it has. Even the RC models are selling for stupid money now. Even WW2 German handguns are jumping up in price. P-38's, Lugers (both wars) and just about anything else with a swastika on it.

P.38s! I have a few, Walther-made. Yes the prices are bumping up after staying flat for a long time. There are a lot of them out there. One of mine is a 7xxx L-block AC44 with minimal use on it. Produced during the Battle of the Bulge. Probably got issued and scooped up by some GI in short order in '45. Still reasonably well made considering the circumstances but the short cuts are apparent compared to a '43 or earlier gun. The war is lost but people are still showing up for work and pounding out weapons to fight it.

leftyo
10-09-2018, 09:31
just about all milsurps have jumped quite a bit in price. russian capture k98s that were $200ish 10yrs ago are a minimum $400+ now days. heck russian mosins that were under a hundred 5 yrs ago run $250 and more now.

dave
10-09-2018, 01:34
Back when I started buying I quickly settled on K98k's (and some other 98 Mausers). Local gun store would get the in maybe one a week (late 50's, 60's). They got so they would save them for me to see first, 30-35 bucks. I hung with a group who also bought, gun stores in the area all had them, of and on. We shot them, traded them, one guy sportered them. I had a Hi-Turret sniper paid 180 bucks and traded it off couple years later. Hell there was no end in sight. I did manage to keep a few real gems. About that time the imports started coming in and people started "collecting" them. Winchesters and Colts were getting too expensive! Not all of my small group of K98k's date that far back with me, have acquired a couple more over the years, not all are all matched either. Some collectors are too picky and miss having scares examples.
Remember those full page Rifleman ads? Cheap then but they raised demand and demand raised prices. When the imports dried up prices increased more.

togor
10-09-2018, 03:18
Dave these were veteran bringbacks coming into the gun shops, maybe on trade for a hunting piece?

dave
10-10-2018, 02:12
Most likely bring-backs, some had duffle cuts. I never got a K98k thru mail order, just too many around in gun shops. Trades? Maybe, or vets just wanting to get rid of them. Shops could not have paid much for them either! Had one from a fellow at work, had the cut but the fore part was walnut, rest was laminate. He said several guys packed their rifles up at the same time and he must have picked up the wrong one. He dug it out of his attic and it was so dirty you could not tell the wood 'till I cleaned it up. PS: he did not ship in a 'duffle bag', but in cardboard tube their tank shells came in.

togor
10-11-2018, 03:52
Gotta say Dave, you did it right! You knew your niche and you understood the times you were in and made the most of them. I tip my cap to you, sir.

tmark
10-11-2018, 07:15
Would someone post a pic of a K98 with a duffle cut?

dave
10-13-2018, 09:38
All mine have been repaired. The cut was usually made under the rear band, so it cannot be seen. Many ways to repair as long as gap is left for the saw cut.

Togor-- I let a medium to large collection go by trading, selling, etc. so I could have done much better. At the time just did not think about the supple drying up!

dave
10-17-2018, 09:09
It's surprising the market for 98's has taken off the way it has. Even the RC models are selling for stupid money now. Even WW2 German handguns are jumping up in price. P-38's, Lugers (both wars) and just about anything else with a swastika on it.

Anything "Nazi" has had one of the highest collector following for years! Except for the guys who brought them home!