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nf1e
12-18-2018, 02:49
Just received the new Blue Book of gun values on flash drive.
Photos are amazing and searching for an item is quick and easy.
Credit card size makes it easy to tote along.

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lyman
12-18-2018, 07:46
I use the online edition
the phone app sucks, but it does well on the laptop

JB White
12-19-2018, 05:49
I use the online edition
the phone app sucks, but it does well on the laptop

How do you use it and how well does it work out for you? I only do a few shows a year. Rolling parts of my collection over to buy something else I must have. I have always seen BB as a very loose reference guide to get started researching actual prices elsewhere. Otherwise I feel it's akin to making stock trades based on a week old edition of the Wall St Journal.
It has become a habit to shut up and walk away whenever someone pulls out the BB as though it's the Bible.

Sunray
12-19-2018, 11:49
The Blue Book of Gun Values, new or otherwise, gives average prices from all over the U.S. with no regard for local supply and demand. "A very loose reference guide" is a good description. Accurate it ain't.

lyman
12-19-2018, 09:18
How do you use it and how well does it work out for you? I only do a few shows a year. Rolling parts of my collection over to buy something else I must have. I have always seen BB as a very loose reference guide to get started researching actual prices elsewhere. Otherwise I feel it's akin to making stock trades based on a week old edition of the Wall St Journal.
It has become a habit to shut up and walk away whenever someone pulls out the BB as though it's the Bible.

I use it as a guide, on commercial stuff it helps me make sure I have the right model, serial number range etc etc,
NEVER use blue book as a guide for milsurps,, the info is suspect, and the prices are rarely close,

commercially, for a few years the S&W revolver prices were way undervalued,

the prices on some stuff is accurate, other stuff way off,

I have had several folks at shows and at work, quote the blue book, or flaydermans, or some other reference, (even the Smith book by Supica,, way old data )

I tell them I use a couple things , plus a little,

couple are Gunborker, completed auctions only, (true sold prices as in it had a winning bid) and personal experience (as in I sold one last month for XXX)

the 3rd for oddball stuff is a google search for other auction sites, collectors inc, or simpsons, for a basic asking price,
keeping in mind the auctions include premiums, and the other 2 are well known , somewhat respected, and haggle


as far as actual parts, accessories etc, I rarely sell those at shows,
most go on Ebay, even with the 11% or so they get off the top, it is still the best market for most parts and accessories,

for US parts I will look at Bill Ricca and Amherst Arms, as a guide, if I cannot find them on ebay,
simply cause ricca is respected, and Jay at Amherst is a friend, (drank many a beer with him at shows)

JB White
12-20-2018, 06:45
Regarding Simpson's. If you went into the store itself, they used to knock as much as 20% off fairly easy as soon as you began to waffle. (The first step in haggling is disinterest on the buyers part) Depending upon the item, they might come down some more.
More recently I don't know since I haven't been to Galesburg in a number of years. I do know that there is an upswing in buyers who don't mind paying the tag and go. That might have an effect and blow the haggling out the window.

lyman
12-20-2018, 12:23
Regarding Simpson's. If you went into the store itself, they used to knock as much as 20% off fairly easy as soon as you began to waffle. (The first step in haggling is disinterest on the buyers part) Depending upon the item, they might come down some more.
More recently I don't know since I haven't been to Galesburg in a number of years. I do know that there is an upswing in buyers who don't mind paying the tag and go. That might have an effect and blow the haggling out the window.

yep, never been, but heard they deal,
all shops do, and sometimes you have to,
wise to keep that in mind when buying,

Jeff L
12-20-2018, 12:36
My favorite is when sellers use it to price their milsurp weapons, they use the highest price ignoring condition issues that effect the price.:mad:

JB White
12-20-2018, 12:42
My favorite is when sellers use it to price their milsurp weapons, they use the highest price ignoring condition issues that effect the price.:mad:

That's my least favorite. That is why I shut up and walk away. It was a turd when he bought it but he thinks I'll believe it's platinum when he's selling.

nf1e
12-20-2018, 02:28
Only a rough reference for sure, but some of the photos an ser# guide are what make it worth while to me. The usb version makes a fast search of it.