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seagoatami

01-29-2019, 12:31

I had a heart attack and a gangrenous gall bladder a couple of years ago, and they had me all tied up with tubes and whatnot. They gave me a cheap plastic urinal. I took it home with me and have used it ever since -- just keep it by the bed and empty it out in the morning.
I dont mind getting out of bed to go , it lets me know I still can. What I do mind is the cat getting in my face and waking me up with his claws in my nose, Im 83 now and the cat is 17, he got left to me when the wife passed away in june.
:sleepy2:

Former Cav

01-29-2019, 04:01

I had my prostate burned out twice. first time was trans urethal needle ablation (TUNA...adds new meaning to that word!!!!)
second time was a green laser.
it helped
BUT
go buy some tract clear in the capsule form. take 2 in the AM and 2 about 3 hours before you go to bed. You might get FOUR whole hours of sleep before you have to piss.
Only PROBLEM with that is your arthritic limbs get stiffer then he11.
HTH

m1ashooter

01-29-2019, 04:15

Has anyone been treated for sleep apnea? I found once I started with the sleep machine I get up much less.

gwp

01-29-2019, 05:19

Has anyone been treated for sleep apnea? I found once I started with the sleep machine I get up much less.Yes, I sleep better and I often make it through the night without a trip to the bathroom. I stopped using the CPAP for a few months. I started using it again after pre-surgery anesthesia consult when the NP restated how helpful the CPAP is in maintaining good health. The cardiologist also said a CPAP was good for my heart problems.

lyman

01-29-2019, 07:41

my kidneys are gravel pits,

so I toss a stone about every 2 yrs, (and pass the big bastards)

so ero said,
water,
lemon, grapfruit or orange juice
good beer,

I drink each, and lots of water,
usually a 8oz glass before bed,

get up between 1&3 and piss,
piss in the morning, and about every 2 hrs,

better to piss a lot, flush them out, and have a big stone every couple, than have them more often,

I can fall back asleep in seconds, and wake up feeling ok when the alarm goes off

JohnPeeff

01-30-2019, 10:23

I"ve had kidney stones twice, the pain was unbearable, morphine was the only thing that stopped me from killing myself!

Former Cav

01-31-2019, 08:12

yep, got the CPAP, been using it religously.
anybody try that sanitizer they are selling on TV?

gwp

01-31-2019, 09:13

yep, got the CPAP, been using it religously.
anybody try that sanitizer they are selling on TV?
I looked up the information about the cleaner and it looked expensive for what you receive.

I wash my CPAP once a week, with dishwashing detergent like I was told, when I was given the CPAP. The Chinese primary care physician suggested I add a little silver to the water to prevent any growth in the reservoir. I use 3 oz of Colloidal Silver in a gallon of distilled water. I have not had problems using this method.

https://www.amazon.com/Colloidal-Silver-Ounces-ppm-Supplement/dp/B00DR6W2HS/ref=pd_sim_121_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00DR6W2HS&pd_rd_r=6cbe5ab4-2570-11e9-8fda-23ec39d64fe3&pd_rd_w=EHlbZ&pd_rd_wg=FzjJM&pf_rd_p=90485860-83e9-4fd9-b838-b28a9b7fda30&pf_rd_r=TXRHQD0Q29KXS6WP044T&psc=1&refRID=TXRHQD0Q29KXS6WP044T

I found this article about the CPAP Sanitizers.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-you-need-a-cpap-cleaner-like-soclean-or-lumin-4171650

RED

01-31-2019, 03:06

I've been indisposed for a while and missed this thread. I was put on a CPAP in 1991 when sleep apnea was rarely mentioned. The CPAP absolutely saved my life and possibly others. I was driving 1,000 miles a week in a automobile on the job. I had 3 wrecks in 3 months and the company made me have a physical. The Dr. couldn't find any problems until I told him the wrecks were because I went to sleep at the wheel. He ordered a test and I have been on the CPAP ever since... 37 years.

In that time there isn't much I haven't tried... But there is one thing for sure and that is I will never use a humidifier again. Those things are a bacteria's dream home. They collect and grow bacteria at an unbelievable rate and cleaning the humidifier once a week doesn't help much. I finally threw the water container away and haven't looked back. Just because you have sleep apnea doesn't mean you need a humidifier any more than other people. Now, all I do is clean my mask and the air filter every couple of weeks

Try it for a week and you may not miss it at all.

lyman

01-31-2019, 03:23

I"ve had kidney stones twice, the pain was unbearable, morphine was the only thing that stopped me from killing myself!

last one I went to the dr about was painful

nurse gave me a shot of morphine and told me to lay down

still felt the stone, (only went to the doc cause the wife made me, they can't do anything for them), and laid across the bed like told,

it was a long week at work, about 70hrs, and this was Sunday AM, (I had a 10hr day that saturday)

so, naturally, I was laying there , being quiet, the pain was subsiding (combo of being still and morphine) but still there and I fell asleep,
nurse woke me,

I fell asleep again

nurse woke me, told me not to sleep,,

pissed me off, I was napping good,,

Mark in Ottawa

01-31-2019, 05:42

This is one of the most depressing discussions that I have ever read here. Unfortunately I am in my 70's and this is partly my present and likely my future

As they say, old age isn't for sissies

S.A. Boggs

01-31-2019, 06:19

This is one of the most depressing discussions that I have ever read here. Unfortunately I am in my 70's and this is partly my present and likely my future

As they say, old age isn't for sissies

I hope NO ONE'S present/future is cancer. I am going into 18 months remission and I am glad with my present situation of aches and pains...at least they are not cancer. Every 90 days blood work/scope to check progress. For all those who are going thru something, at least you able to do something! When I was in treatment I looked forward to being able to walk without assistance, not having to have a pump connected to my chest port, being able to having the ability to drink something cold, to being able to eat. Each morning I wake up hurting when I get out of bed and thankful for whatever the day has in store for me. This time 3 years ago I started down my cancer path scared of the treatment, knowing I had no choice except one.
I have more now then I did three years ago, a better and warmer truck, a much larger home, you guys to put up with me. Hang in there, it does get better...just depends on how you look at your situation. Remember, your glass is half empty, half full or you want to find the SOB who is drinking out of your glass!:1948::hello:
Sam

PWC

01-31-2019, 06:39

CPAP since 2006. Clean weekly with cheap Heintz white vinegar in the tube; block the ends an swish back and forth for awhile. Vinegar to 1/4 full of the bottom of water chamber eats out the hard water scale. Wash mask with soap and water and/or Purell. I customized the cushion to keep from squeezing my nose. Sometimes 3-4 drops in the chamber (just barely smell) at bed time seems to be more restfull sleep.

Use a cane in the morning to get up and make sure everything is pointing/moving the same direction. Sound like rice krispies (Snap, Crackle, Pop) for awhile.

No snore; no elbow in the back or ribs. My wife now has one too......Ahhhh, the bliss......

dryheat

01-31-2019, 09:57

CPAP, CPAP, what is CPAP?(old star trek qoute). Maybe something about sleep apena. I'm single, If I get it, no one is there to correct it. I'm sixty eight. I can still do a fifty yard dash for about five yards. Maybe, 'cause at six feet tall, I weighed 145 clean up until I was twenty. All I ever wanted was ten more pounds. I sure as heck don't want to get smug about my health. I take blood thinners and advorstatins for colesterol. But I'm not a pill taker. I will do what is sensible to a point but; you get old you get sick and you die. Have a little fun in there. Get off yer ass. Take a walk. Get a dog and take him for a walk, it's just a dog, he might outlive you. I worry about my dog for that reason. I just went down to the river and caught a couple of fish. To make it easier, I had to climb out on a limb and saw off an offending branch. I had to take my sneakers and socks off and roll up my pants legs. The water was cold. Sawing the branch made my arm hurt. I damn near gave up on it half way through. I reconciled that I was out there and not to be a baby(but cold water hurts). I'm going to take my camera and get a great shot of the mtn, loosing that branch will make the picture better, I'll post it. Every journey starts with a single step. Quite smoking, did I mention that?

PWC

02-01-2019, 07:19

Well at least we live in the valley where we can walk in water in Jan, many othets can walk on it in Jan.

CJCulpeper

02-17-2019, 01:09

I hope NO ONE'S present/future is cancer. ...

No cancer. I am looking at a killer stroke some where in time between 2038 and 2048. Ya can't escape genetics. It is living every day as if it is my last until then.

Allen

02-17-2019, 01:24

No cancer. Ya can't escape genetics.

Unfortunately we all have cancer cells. We just don't all get the progressive growth of cancer cells. Just like auto accidents, you can't rule it out.

CJCulpeper

02-17-2019, 01:33

Perhaps not but life threatening cancers does not run in the family. I agree with you I can not rule it out but based on my folks, grandparents, and great grandparents I look to having heart attacks or strokes in my eighties.

Until then pass the likkor jug and the ammunition and show me the way to the women.

Merc

03-20-2019, 04:46

I"ve had kidney stones twice, the pain was unbearable, morphine was the only thing that stopped me from killing myself!

Does anyone remember a method of dissolving kidney stones using shock waves? You’d sit in a tank filled with water and shock waves would be administered that were harmless to bones and tissue but would pulverize the kidney stones and turn the color of urine to a dark brown.

Allen

03-20-2019, 05:22

Does anyone remember a method of dissolving kidney stones using shock waves? You’d sit in a tank filled with water and shock waves would be administered that were harmless to bones and tissue but would pulverize the kidney stones and turn the color of urine to a dark brown.

You don't hear much about it anymore. I've always heard that you can't have this procedure if you've ever had a broken bone. The repaired bone is sometimes stronger than before but the deposits are more brittle and thus can come apart with the ultrasound, so I'm told. This is perhaps broken bones only that would be submerged in the tank I guess.

https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/kidneystones_shockwave

Greyjoy

03-20-2019, 06:00

i have a bad back now. its painful and slows me down

lyman

03-20-2019, 01:31

Duane Hansen

03-21-2019, 07:46

Had kidney stones some years ago. This was the worst pain that l had ever experienced! They sent me to the hospital and they strapped a machine to my side and cranked it up. It broke up the stones with some sort of shock waves so that l was able to pass it. It was like pissing shards of glass. It sliced and diced on the way out and a pissed blood for a few days. They had to put a stint in where the stone was lodged because it chewed up that spot. The stint kept the healing from causing scar tissue and partial blockage. They did put me out for this procedure and l was pleased at the results.

JB White

03-21-2019, 08:45

I know someone who has the sound treatment for stones just a few years ago, so they are still using it in some places.

I went through some serious bouts with kidney stones myself so I know the pain involved. Fever, burning guts, excruciating backache, nausea, and the constant urge for movements as the body wants to purge what ails it. It does indeed feel as though death is knocking.
So long as the stones show some movement the hospital won't do anything except ring up larger bills as you wait.
I discovered if I kept on drinking water while pacing I could eventually shoot out the bullet. That is painful in itself but what a wave of relief when it happens.
Years ago it was suggested that a little bit of citrus everyday would keep the dust from collecting into rocks. A squeeze of lime into soda or water is just enough to keep the kidneys in order. So far so good..but for passing some dust in the earlier days.
I'm told there are three types of stones depending upon the minerals we injest. The citrus is said to work on the two most common. Calcium.... I can't recall which of the other two at the moment. It's been working well for me.

As an aside, pain management studies have shown that men passing stones are often much more painful than childbirth. So the next time a woman tries to put you down with that age old adage... Fire back. ;)

***Reminded of an old joke between men, women, childbirth, and stones. You will never hear a man say, "Gee, I'd like to have another kidney stone someday."

SwampRatt

03-21-2019, 09:02

I went on a lemon juice regimen for calcium stones. Had to quit that when we discovered it was eroding my teeth. The acid.

Allen

03-21-2019, 09:19

I went on a lemon juice regimen for calcium stones. Had to quit that when we discovered it was eroding my teeth. The acid.

I wonder how much, how strong and how often you would need to drink the lemon juice or lemon juice mixture to aid with the kidney stones but not cause side effects like heartburn and excessive acid on the teeth.

Merc

03-22-2019, 05:24

i have a bad back now. its painful and slows me down

Have you had it checked out? A simple X-ray often will tell your dr what the problem is. He might send you for PT if it’s arthritis and/or muscular weakness. My therapist taught me several stretching and core strengthening exercises that helped to solve my arthritic back problems.

JB White

03-22-2019, 06:27

I wonder how much, how strong and how often you would need to drink the lemon juice or lemon juice mixture to aid with the kidney stones but not cause side effects like heartburn and excessive acid on the teeth.

You don't need much at all. Just a few drops in your water or soda once or twice a day. It's not to dissolve stones. It's only there to keep the dust as dust so it can pass.

Allen

03-22-2019, 06:46

You don't need much at all. Just a few drops in your water or soda once or twice a day. It's not to dissolve stones. It's only there to keep the dust as dust so it can pass.

Thanks.

It seems like this would be more common knowledge to the point of everyone doing it. I mean WTF wants to get kidney stones? If it works then great. If it doesn't then we've added a little flavor to our drinks.

lyman

03-22-2019, 06:47

I wonder how much, how strong and how often you would need to drink the lemon juice or lemon juice mixture to aid with the kidney stones but not cause side effects like heartburn and excessive acid on the teeth.

not a lot,

just a wedge in a glass of water (or if you cheat, tea) or a glass of grapefruit juice, orange juice etc a day will do,

heck, maybe even a lime in a corona (if you can stomach that nasty beer) will do,

something in the citrus changed in your system, and does not dissolve the stones or stop them from forming, but coats them or makes them smoother so the pass easier, vs being spikey and sticking/tearing on the way out

supposedly a smooth stone passes before they get too big,

Allen

03-22-2019, 07:13

not a lot,

just a wedge in a glass of water (or if you cheat, tea) or a glass of grapefruit juice, orange juice etc a day will do,

heck, maybe even a lime in a corona (if you can stomach that nasty beer) will do,

something in the citrus changed in your system, and does not dissolve the stones or stop them from forming, but coats them or makes them smoother so the pass easier, vs being spikey and sticking/tearing on the way out

supposedly a smooth stone passes before they get too big,

Thanks.

I would go with a mimosa or whiskey sour before attempting another corona (both have citrus). That stuff reminds me of what you hear about the water in Mexico. Don't like Samuel Adams beer either--it's strong and cloudy--nasty to me. Right now I'm just adding a little concentrated lemon juice and Splenda to my drinking water or tea.

lyman

03-22-2019, 01:07

Thanks.

I would go with a mimosa or whiskey sour before attempting another corona (both have citrus). That stuff reminds me of what you hear about the water in Mexico. Don't like Samuel Adams beer either--it's strong and cloudy--nasty to me. Right now I'm just adding a little concentrated lemon juice and Splenda to my drinking water or tea.

nothing wrong with cloudy beer,

if God had wanted us to filter beer he would not have given us livers,,

(supposedly a ben franklin quote)

anyhoo,,,a good Belgian Wit with a slice of orange is good too

Sako

03-22-2019, 02:21

If citrus acid in orange juice helps with kidney stones what is the purpose of calcium enriched orange juice?

lyman

03-22-2019, 02:47

If citrus acid in orange juice helps with kidney stones what is the purpose of calcium enriched orange juice?

for those that need calcium for their bones

Sako

03-22-2019, 05:21

for those that need calcium for their bones

I take it that is tongue in cheek. My point is-- if the citric acid in orange juice dissolves calcium then why bother to add it to orange juice if it is only going to be dissolved by the citric acid in the juice?

JB White

03-22-2019, 08:54

It doesn't dissolve calcium. It only helps prevent it from binding into larger pieces within the liver.

lyman

03-23-2019, 07:54

It doesn't dissolve calcium. It only helps prevent it from binding into larger pieces within the liver.

no so much,

not dissolve, it is changed in your body to coat and smooth out the stones, vs rough edges (as I mentioned previously) making them easy to pass,,

and kidney,, the liver is for filtering beer:headbang:

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I take it that is tongue in cheek. My point is-- if the citric acid in orange juice dissolves calcium then why bother to add it to orange juice if it is only going to be dissolved by the citric acid in the juice?

the truth is , re the calcium in OJ and whatever else, is it is a marketing campaign to get more sales, thinking folks will think it is healthier than it already is,

not really sure how much calcium is absorbed thru OJ,, but I am not a doc, (but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn, just not last night)

shadycon

03-23-2019, 11:11

A change in direction [ if OK] How about a stroke on your 65th birthday. That will take the wind out of your sails!

JB White

03-23-2019, 12:50

no so much,

not dissolve, it is changed in your body to coat and smooth out the stones, vs rough edges (as I mentioned previously) making them easy to pass,,

and kidney,, the liver is for filtering beer

A slip of the lip and you were all over it!
Thanks for the catch :)

Allen

03-23-2019, 01:00

A change in direction [ if OK] How about a stroke on your 65th birthday. That will take the wind out of your sails!

Well that ain't good.

You may have to become like a lot of older women and not declare any more birthdays.

A stroke can be worse than having a heart attack.

lyman

03-23-2019, 01:39

A change in direction [ if OK] How about a stroke on your 65th birthday. That will take the wind out of your sails!

there is no direction here, not at all,

sorry to hear about the stroke,

how are things down in Hillsville? got a friend that lives not too far from you over in Draper

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A slip of the lip and you were all over it!
Thanks for the catch :)

:icon_jokercolor:

shadycon

03-24-2019, 06:54

Merc

03-24-2019, 05:44

That was going on 3 yrs ago, along with total hip replacement in '96, and pulling all the muscles in my lower back in mid '80's I can still get my own firewood.
Well it's a little dryer and slowly warming. Won't be long before me and the grandson can go to our backwoods shooting range and waste some bullets.:1948:

It doesn’t sound like the stroke caused any permanent damage. Good for you. The are no wasted bullets, only wasted opportunities. Tell us what you and the grandson like to shoot.

retread12345

03-24-2019, 07:45

shadycon

03-25-2019, 07:14

It doesn’t sound like the stroke caused any permanent damage. Good for you. The are no wasted bullets, only wasted opportunities. Tell us what you and the grandson like to shoot.

We shoot everything; 3/4 bore black powder ships cannon. Made by my older brother who was a machinist. #28 :1948:
TSMG [semi], M1 carbine, AK74, Mini 14, Pistols, 1899, 30-30 Marlin, Rem. Fieldmaster 121,shotguns.........:eusa_dance:
I reload for most........... :icon_wink:

lyman

03-25-2019, 05:11

I am 70 and got diagnosed with PARKINSONS ABOUT 5 years back, then developed an irritated prostate and bladder . Had a couple biopsies. Taking 50 MG
MYBERTIQUE daily and has helped me sleep all night . No liquids after 6 pm

my Mother, 77, was diagnosed a few weeks ago,
her brother was diagnosed last year,

she just left to drive down to see him to compare notes,,

my Grandmother, their mother, died from it 15 yrs ago or so