Value of Mod 1895 Winchester

[snakehunter]

It's a Saddle Ring carbine in caliber 30-06. Bore is in good condition. wood has been refinished. saddle ring and upper hand guard have been replaced with new components and it has been re-blued to a glossy finish Anybody have an idea what it is worth?

[Sunray]

"...wood has been refinished...has been re-blued..." That drops the value by approximately half. Even if it was done professionally. Condition and originality matters.
However, there was one on Rock Island auction that sold for $1840 in December of 2017. Another currently on Gunbroker that the guy wants a minimum bid of $1,299.00, with no bids.

[snakehunter]

"...wood has been refinished...has been re-blued..." That drops the value by approximately half. Even if it was done professionally. Condition and originality matters.
However, there was one on Rock Island auction that sold for $1840 in December of 2017. Another currently on Gunbroker that the guy wants a minimum bid of $1,299.00, with no bids.

Thanks Sunray. Your info helps me establish a ballpark figure within which to work.

[Tuna]

The 1895 has a big problem with high powered cartridges like the 30-06, 30-40 Krag and the 7.62x54. It has a tendency to stretch the action with these rounds and the headspace increases. So be sure to have it checked. It has no collector value. It should sell as a shooter.

[snakehunter]

The 1895 has a big problem with high powered cartridges like the 30-06, 30-40 Krag and the 7.62x54. It has a tendency to stretch the action with these rounds and the headspace increases. So be sure to have it checked. It has no collector value. It should sell as a shooter.

Thanks Tuna. That makes sense. It's nickel steel

[clintonhater]

It's nickel steel

Doesn't matter--it's the breech lock-up, at the rear end of the bolt, that causes the stretching. With all that's been done to it, maybe $5-600?

[Vern Humphrey]

I always lusted for two rifles -- An 1895 Winchester in .30-06 and a 99 Savage in .250-3000. My Dad was in oil exploration and spent years in the African bush. The .250-3000 was his favorite cartridge. But the more I learned the less I wanted them. Nowadays I have a 99 Savage in .308 Winchester -- the best of both worlds.

[Allen]

My Dad had a Winchester 1895 in 30-40 Krag. I believe the barrel is stamped 30 US. We still have it. It's a carbine version and supposedly went through one of our many wars with Mexico. I guess the serial number lookup might verify some of the history. It has 25 1/4" notches cut on the butt stock real neatly side by side as to confirm 25 kills but of course no one can verify that now. It was my Dad's favorite rifle and it still shoots good to this day.

There sure is a world of difference between a 1894 and a 1895.

[clintonhater]

I always lusted for two rifles -- An 1895 Winchester in .30-06 and a 99 Savage in .250-3000.

The 99 makes a lot of sense, but not the first--unless you like vicious kickers. The '95s in .30-40 (I have one) are much more pleasant.

[dryheat]

Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.

[Allen]

Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.

Yes. He used 2, both chambered for the .405 cartridge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1895

[dryheat]

That is a piece of history. They pretty much covered it all, what with the Russian, .303,ect. A buddy of mine just picked one up, and I know he didn't buy a Bubba. Funny, how folks didn't think far enough ahead to not mess with historic rifles and such. Well, maybe it helps the collectors find the(rare) virgin stuff which is fun to pick up and more valuable.

[Griff Murphey]

i have a 1914 06 saddle ring, the ring is long lost and the threads are wallowed out and gone, gone. One of the elevation screws is missing on the rear sight and the remaining one is tightened all the way down... And it's on, really on, at 100 yards. Yes there is a little receiver stretch primer pooch, I typically load 2 grains under minimum. Great guns, mine has a Texas Ranger star carved into the butt stock, as these were the preferred long arm of the Texas Rangers in the early 20th century, it's possible it is a gun once owned by a ranger. Bore purty good, it'll group at 2 1/2" at 100. Have the modern Browning reiteration, both lovely sweet handling guns.

[snakehunter]

i have a 1914 06 saddle ring, the ring is long lost and the threads are wallowed out and gone, gone. One of the elevation screws is missing on the rear sight and the remaining one is tightened all the way down... And it's on, really on, at 100 yards. Yes there is a little receiver stretch primer pooch, I typically load 2 grains under minimum. Great guns, mine has a Texas Ranger star carved into the butt stock, as these were the preferred long arm of the Texas Rangers in the early 20th century, it's possible it is a gun once owned by a ranger. Bore purty good, it'll group at 2 1/2" at 100. Have the modern Browning reiteration, both lovely sweet handling guns.

Sounds nice. My '95 shoots about like your rifle (2.5-3 in @ 100 )with full load 180s. It was my black bear gun for many years but now it's retired.

[Art]

Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.

In addition to the .405s mentioned above, Roosevelt carried a Model 95 Carbine in .30-40 in the Spanish American War and provided them to his officers. The Model 95 was one of his favorite rifles.

[jon_norstog]

Didn't Teddy Roosevelt carry one? I remember my dads friend had one up on a rack in his house. Funny, I was about twelve years old and I remember the look of it. About 1963.

TR did in fact carry a '95 Winchester in .30 US when he was in the "Rough Riders." Supposedly he lent the carbine to another soldier during the San Juan/Kettle Hill fight. He had spent a few years out west ranching and may have come to prefer the lever gun to a bolt-action. In any case he continued to use the '95 in various calibers, and took one in .405 to Africa with him. He called it "lion medicine."

jn

[JB White]

Years ago I was killing time and wandered into a gun shop to browse. Spotted a well used '95 on the rack at a very good price. I brought it up to the counter where the clerk told me most people don't want a 303 British. (I do). I took out my ID and CC when he told me they didn't accept plastic. Told him I would be right back.
Returned in under an hour with the cash only to discover the price had doubled. So I passed but wasn't able to leave before the owner came out of the back to yell at me that they weren't giving guns away.
I hadn't made a scene. Only asked why the original price was X'd out and the tag remarked. The clerk winced and shrugged his shoulders. All I did was tell him I was taking a pass at the new price.
They went out of business not too long afterward. Don't know if they sold it or not. Most of the clientele were shotgunners.

Had the price gone up some it might have been fair for condition, but doubled launched it well out of haggling range.

[Vern Humphrey]

The 99 makes a lot of sense, but not the first--unless you like vicious kickers. The '95s in .30-40 (I have one) are much more pleasant.

I have no problem at all with my .308 -- but then I like to shoot my M1903A3s and my Model 70 with their steel buttplates.