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SysAd
04-23-2019, 08:29
My old hands just aren't so good with my heavy old guns any more so I have decided to sell at least two of them, maybe all three. Does anyone have the books who can give me a high and low value on them? If so, I will post what they are. I just bought a nice little Ruger LCP II and I love the lighter weight. It's time for a lighter weight .45 too!

m1ashooter
04-23-2019, 09:04
No books but have you looked at the range on gun broker?

Sunray
04-23-2019, 10:31
Any book value will be at least 2 years out of date and will not reflect local supply and demand. Sites like Gunbroker seem to be mostly dealers with odd ideas of what stuff is worth. Better ball park number than a book though.
It'd probably be best to take 'em to a local gun shop to get an evaluation. Keeping in mind that if they're buying, dealers base used prices on their wholesale cost and how fast they think they can sell. Might be different if you tell 'em you want a value for insurance purposes.
Oh and lighter weight adds up to increased felt recoil.

Former Cav
04-23-2019, 12:54
I bought a book of gun values and it was WAY OFF on day one!
Search around you on the internet, go to different dealers, like J&G Sales, Buds gun shop all DOT coms etc.
What do you have for sale?
another thing, I've had my health go south.... afterall... I am in the "winter of my life" so I've been selling my stuff off.
You will find you are better off selling locally as you don't have to pay for shipping and handling and FFL's on both ends etc which raises the price so the gun becomes "NOT a bargain".
Also, AR 15's now adays are dirt cheap. You can buy an AR15 or AR 10 on Palmetto state armory for 500 to $700 complete.
I have AR's that I'd like to sell that are LOW MILEAGE target models, however, nobody wants to pay for that target grade 1 in 7 twist barrel, the timney or JP trigger, the target sights etc etc. Most people don't even KNOW the difference.
GOOD luck.

PWC
04-23-2019, 02:39
Wow, from the title, I thought this thread was started by AOC!

Merc
04-23-2019, 04:22
Why not post what you have? There’s a wide range of knowledge here. Someone will help determine the value.

lyman
04-23-2019, 04:32
I am a FFL\SOT and deal mostly in estates\used firearms,

let me know what you have , and accurate condition description, and I can give you an avg retail (for the East Coast)

RED
04-23-2019, 08:10
PM/email me and I will shop around for you. I have several collector friend that are always looking for something to enhance their collections.

Tuna
04-24-2019, 07:32
About 99% of anything on line is going to be well over priced. The Blue book of gun values it the bible used by most dealers as to the value of a firearm. Those selling on the likes of Gun Broker are so far afield that you cannot use it to judge values.

Allen
04-24-2019, 09:07
What I have noticed on blue book value is that's it's like BB value on used cars. In a real world their predicted price may be more correct than on-line sales but, to give an example, you want an old Colt Diamondback pistol in new condition. BB may (just an example) list the gun at $600. OK, great, go find one? You will probably go to your grave long before you find that pistol, in that condition at that price. View the same gun on line and it may be $1200 (just an example). You want it but don't want to pay the price. More than likely someone else will because that one and only gun is being viewed by everyone in the country that is in the market for such. Pay the $1200 now and enjoy it or do w/o it and spend many dollars and hours looking for one at a local gun shop.

I have seen a lot of guns overpriced on line due to misrepresentation, lies, or simply because it was photo'd well or had a pretty stock on it or something. That's why you look at the whole lot--not just one or two.

The gun industry changes so much and so quickly that I have never seen a book that had values at what I would sell at but always what I would like to buy at.

I have bought all too many guns the past 30 years or so, 2 or 3 from gun shows, 5 or 6 from local gun shops, but the bulk was purchased on-line. I don't feel I overpaid for any of them and could sell them today for a profit if need be. I would rather give the local guys the money but when they just don't have the product well... so I have to agree with those that say look at GB and see what they actually sell for.

The original thread began with someone wanting to sell so if they bring more on-line that would be the place to sell and judge what to ask for them. On top of that there is more traffic. Ask too much, it probably won't sell. Ask too little and it may create a bidding war.



On a side note, I've never seen a question presented quite like this. If the original poster indicated what he/she had for sale it might just be something we are all too familiar with and could give him/her a reasonable estimation instead of all these generalized responses.

SysAd
04-24-2019, 09:16
I don't have anything within sixty miles.

lyman
04-24-2019, 10:15
About 99% of anything on line is going to be well over priced. The Blue book of gun values it the bible used by most dealers as to the value of a firearm. Those selling on the likes of Gun Broker are so far afield that you cannot use it to judge values.

as a dealer, I use it as a tool to help ID some stuff,

I have learned to not use it for all pricing, since the markets are variable (location, condition, etc all change)

at least with pricing on the net (Gunbroker closed auctions, for similar items that had a bid and actually sold) I can get an avg selling or sold price,
you still have to look at weed out the extremely low sales, and high sales,


not to mention, that as someone who sells for a living,, experience

barretcreek
04-24-2019, 12:31
Pat,
Gunbroker has a "completed listings" feature which will show the actual selling prices of guns, not what some fool thinks his is 'worth'. Unless your guns are very unusual that is a useful tool for getting a ballpark estimate. Then you factor in location, etc. A dealer will charge a transfer fee but shipping through a dealer is worth it if it disappears in transit. UPS flat out refuses to pay if it is stolen unless both ends of the transaction are a dealer.

SysAd
04-24-2019, 01:14
Okay, I will just post what I have. I definitely want to sell my Browning .25, made in Belgium, serial number 151454. It's in good working order but needs to be re-blued. It's cute little fella but I just replaced with a carry gun with a bit more punch.
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The next is my S&W .357 Highway Patrolman. This one hangs on my bedpost but it's awfully heavy. I would be better off with something lighter.

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Finally, I am not set on selling it, but know I should, is my U.S Army Colt 1911 serial number 387027, I believe manufactured in 1913. The grips are not original and it has some scratches. I have loved the 1911 since I was a kid but don't have the strength left in my hands and wrists it needs. I could field strip and reassemble one in about a minute when I was ten, now it takes twenty minutes. I love it, but I know I would be better off with a new, light weight .45.

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Allen
04-24-2019, 03:22
OK, I'll go first

Browning 25 = $300-$400

S&W model 28 = $600-$800

1911 (made in 1918) = $1200-$1500

Providing they are as nice as they look in the pictures. Prices would be retail. If you sell to a dealer you may have to leave a little meat for him.

Ridicule soon to follow but I did break the ice.

lyman
04-24-2019, 03:45
OK, I'll go first

Browning 25 = $300-$400

S&W model 28 = $600-$800

1911 (made in 1918) = $1200-$1500

Providing they are as nice as they look in the pictures. Prices would be retail. If you sell to a dealer you may have to leave a little meat for him.

Ridicule soon to follow but I did break the ice.

east coast pricing,

Browning,, 300-350
Smith 650+

1911, would go with the low end, but would want to see the parts makeup to see how much is correct

SysAd
04-24-2019, 05:48
Many thanks! Your estimates seem to be pretty well in line with gunbrokers.