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Fred
05-01-2019, 01:37
My preferred choice of weapons around our little horse ranch is adequate for any defense of our land against bad men.
they're all charcoal burners. All originals.
I hope you enjoy the photos I just took of them outside with my iPhone!
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Fred
05-01-2019, 01:42
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free1954
05-01-2019, 02:15
nice. at one time all top of the line defensive weapons. is the pouch original?

Fred
05-01-2019, 02:16
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Fred
05-01-2019, 02:39
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Yes, both the 45-70 McKeever and the Frazier 50-70 are original.

Fred
05-01-2019, 03:23
Properly used, they're more than adequate to end any aggression against us on our land.

kj47
05-02-2019, 05:20
Nice.

70ish
05-02-2019, 08:22
I sure hope you use only smokeless powder for the two-legged, forked-tongue critters. Those '68's might best be used only at night.

Fred
05-02-2019, 09:53
Lol.
I'm not worried about revealing my position to a sqad of trained and determined riflemen.

Dick Hosmer
05-02-2019, 02:39
I can just picture you at the loophole, with your good wife close behind, reloading. Warms the cockles of my heart (also, I just watched some "Zulu" snippets for the umpteenth time)!

Fred
05-02-2019, 06:56
Ha!
https://youtu.be/nQrE8vOM0ss

Tkacook
05-02-2019, 07:25
Great pictures as always! Thanks for posting Fred!

Fred
05-03-2019, 07:19
I'm happy you like them Tkacook!
Thanks

free1954
05-04-2019, 01:28
Ha!
https://youtu.be/nQrE8vOM0ss

did you ever notice the bolt action rifles in that scene? not to mention the martini enfields. if you pause it at 6 01 there are three in the frame.

Carlsr
05-04-2019, 05:16
Love them 68's Fred! I need to find one of those ammo pouches for my 50's.

Fred
05-04-2019, 10:37
did you ever notice the bolt action rifles in that scene? not to mention the martini enfields. if you pause it at 6 01 there are three in the frame.


Yes. They had to use Long Lee Enfields because the probably couldn't get their hands on enough Martini Henry's.
But it's a great movie isn't it!

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Love them 68's Fred! I need to find one of those ammo pouches for my 50's.

Carl, did you notice the serial numbers on the left sides and dates of manufacture on the breech blocks?

Carlsr
05-05-2019, 05:27
Fred, Yes I did. You have posted them several times but these photos are much nicer, wish my camera could take pictures like yours. Your very lucky to have found those low serialized rifles! I always have an eye out for one at every gun show I attend. I have a nice M68 in the 1400 range which I purchased from Al. It looks like it was in someones closet for a very long time. Here are some pics.
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Fred
05-05-2019, 01:20
That rifle of yours looks to be about as fine as they can be found. Sharp edges.
Do you shoot it? I haven't shot a trapdoor in 45 years now.

Carlsr
05-05-2019, 05:30
Fred, I have not shot this one (yet). Edges are very sharp so it must have been stored away for a long time. The bore is as shinny as they come. I do have others I shoot. Have a 66 Allin, 69 cadet and a few 45/70's that I shoot. Just got a 1870 that I'll be taking to the range shortly. May I ask why you haven't shot one in 45 years?

Fred
05-05-2019, 06:29
There used to be an old rock quarry on private land that allowed one to shoot up to 300 yards that was closed one day to the public.
No more fun times there. I entered the army after that and so never had the time. I sold my rifle then (number 11801) that had a Five grooved barrel and my 1884 with it.
Also, after literally thousands of hours on tanks and thousands of main gun rounds fired and hundreds of thousands of rounds of .50 caliber and 7.62 belted rounds fired, even fireworks have lost their entertainment for me. But I'm wanting to start shooting my trapdoor's again now.
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Carlsr
05-06-2019, 02:48
Thanks much for your service Fred!!! I'm sure it would do you good and you deserve to enjoy shooting those trapdoors again.

Fred
05-06-2019, 05:05
Hey thanks Carlsr!
Yep, it'd do me a great deal of good to get back into shooting trapdoor's again. Even Remington Rolling Blocks or Sharps would be real fun for me!
I really do want to see how the 1868's print on paper. I think I ought to set up a 100 yard range with a decent benchrest outside on our land. No smokeless or Pyrodex loads. Just Black Powder.
I want to try out my newly acquired 1884 too that I got from Al a while back. I've got the proper 500 grain bullet mold for loading up ammo for it too.

free1954
05-08-2019, 02:42
[QUOTE=Fred;556917]Yes. They had to use Long Lee Enfields because the probably couldn't get their hands on enough Martini Henry's.
But it's a great movie isn't it!

one of my all time favorites. I saw it on my tenth birthday, and when anybody asked me what I wanted for my birthday I replied "martini henry rifle."

Carlsr
05-10-2019, 04:42
Your welcome Fred, I only use black powder as it is much more enjoyable. Just loaded some 500 gr. bullets to try out with 60 gr. of 2F. One of these weekends it does not rain I'll get to the range and try them out.

Fred
05-10-2019, 11:18
Carl, do you load 60 grains of 2F because that's all that it takes to fill the modern case without compressing it, or is it because it's an accurate load for you?

Carlsr
05-11-2019, 03:02
Fred, I have used the full 70 gr 2F and it requires lots of compression. Using 59 gr. 2F for the 405 gr hollow base bullet you can compress the powder with the bullet. Seems I get better accuracy with 59 gr than I do with 70 gr. I just bought these 500 gr. bullets from Buffalo Arms so just going to try them out first with 60 gr black powder. I used 2 cardboard wads and slightly compress the powder then seat the bullet to the proper depth.