Winchester garand

[louis]

46671x guy

Have this lightly stamped Winchester with a redone number any remarks?

Thank you

[Major Tom]

Well, I would pass on buying it.

[Marty T.]

Story kind of along the same lines. I looked at an M1 few years back that had the original S/N ground off and a new one etched on. This was in a gun shop and when questioned about it, the story was that the police dept. had ground off the numbers and put the new ones on. Hmmm. When questioned that the POLICE did it, he stuck with the story. I passed too.

[Gun Smoke]

Story kind of along the same lines. I looked at an M1 few years back that had the original S/N ground off and a new one etched on. This was in a gun shop and when questioned about it, the story was that the police dept. had ground off the numbers and put the new ones on. Hmmm. When questioned that the POLICE did it, he stuck with the story. I passed too.

I think in the future I would pass on that gun shop too.

[lyman]

hard to say by that pic,,
however it looks like it was welded over and restamped,

hard pass, unless it was cheap cheap cheap, (ETA, as in worth the value of the other parts)


FWIW, we had a M1C in the shop many moons ago,

someone had filed or milled off the serial number (deeply, and nicely done, not like bubba with a dremil)
no idea why, guessing it was stolen out of an armory or ???

anyhow, we sent pics to the ATF technical branch, and they allowed us to have another serial number applied (we had it engraved on the side) and made a copy of the letter for the next buyer,



not to many years ago I picked up a collection that had a 1903 Colt Auto in it,
the serial number area was off a different finish, and the serial number was in a different font than Colt would have used,

so I sent a pic to our local office, a few weeks later I got a reply and was told all was good, no worries, sell it,

so we did

[Gun Smoke]

46671x guy

Have this lightly stamped Winchester with a redone number any remarks?

Thank you

The keyword here is "Have".

Do you own this rifle already or thinking about making a purchase?

[louis]

Gun Smoke, neither I should have said have a photo of.

[lyman]

Gun Smoke, neither I should have said have a photo of.

with respect, that photo is horrible,

any way to get a better view?

[louis]

Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

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I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.

[lyman]

Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

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I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.

if so, they were not done that way,

they were normally marked with an additional A

[P51MUSTANG]

Would take a hard pass....

[Orlando]

Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

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I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.

All was done was the letter A etched at end of serial.
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/LEAD%20Winchester/Picture075.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/Garandlover/media/LEAD%20Winchester/Picture075.jpg.html)

[louis]

Actually not all of them were marked with an A. I’ve seen photos here a few years back was interesting.

[Orlando]

yes but I do not believe any were ground off and restamped. They were only etched A if two rifles with same serial were together, otherwise there was no reason to.

[louis]

No the photos I’ve seen here on this site during a discussion about this same subject were a few photos of redone serial numbers with no A. This was a few years ago but this I remember that is why I posted this photo.

[twh]

As stated the military didn’t renumber any weapons because of a duplicate serial number. There are numerous examples of serial number over runs in WWII production including Garands, carbines, 03/A3s and 1911A1s and they weren’t restamped with new numbers.According to what I’ve seen and read the duplicates were stamped with an A either as a suffix or prefix.

[Orlando]

As stated the military didn’t renumber any weapons because of a duplicate serial number. There are numerous examples of serial number over runs in WWII production including Garands, carbines, 03/A3s and 1911A1s and they weren’t restamped with new numbers.According to Wharton’s I’ve seen and read the duplicates were stamped with an A either as a suffix or prefix.

Agreed, either stamped or left alone and nothing done

[louis]

Well then I was reading here and saw the photos here about changed serial numbers. It was awhile back. But I know what I read and saw. I agree there was usually an A stamped but these were unusual. I had enough of this subject. I quit. This isn’t the same place as it used to be.

[Orlando]

No need to get upset because we don't agree with you. Just because you saw it discussed before doesn't mean it was correct information. This is a place for everyone to learn

[lyman]

No need to get upset because we don't agree with you. Just because you saw it discussed before doesn't mean it was correct information. This is a place for everyone to learn

well said

[P51MUSTANG]

That brings back memories of demil I saw back in the 80's. Was there any evidence of a reweld?