50 70 cartridge box

[Carlsr]

I recently stumbled across a cartridge box for 50 70 cal. but did not see this maker in the books I have.
It is made by Newcomd & Lyon. It has a spring loaded bottom so that when you open the box cartridges are raised up so that you can easily pull out the round by the rim.
Is this an authentic cartridge box for 50 70?
Thanks

[Tkacook]

Carl,

I found this on Google search.
https://picclick.com/Original-50-70-Cal-Newcomb-Lyon-CARTRIDGE-BOX-312083698866.html

This shows the patent that was given to them on the deisgn of the box.
https://books.google.com/books?id=LvwWAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=newcomb+and+lyon+cartridge&source=bl&ots=aTD3j_inNm&sig=ACfU3U1YmgIrMKOHs7T6DHdvu1xCFezoGw&hl=en&ppis=_c&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv9Y6ulrPnAhUvTd8KHbx7CnMQ6AEwDHoECAsQA Q#v=onepage&q=newcomb%20and%20lyon%20cartridge&f=false

Andy

[Carlsr]

Thanks Tkacook.

[Tkacook]

Another listing I found said it was listed in the book.
https://www.amazon.com/Indian-cartridge-pouches-boxes-carbine/dp/0963120824

Patent date is listed as 1867. I found several pictures just as you describe.

[Dick Hosmer]

Gotta be super-rare. Pahaskabooks (whoever they are) must have started a long time ago and really did his research. That seller comes up with some of the BEST period stuff you will ever see on Ebay. He is not cheap - knows exactly what he has. I've never bought from him, but sure enjoy his offerings. Cannot recall the maker just now, but I have the "folding" .50-70 box which is fairly scarce.

[Carlsr]

Thanks Dick, Looks to be like new and unused?? He has a few nice cartridge boxes I'd love to have but just can't seem to spend that kind of money on one.

[Dick Hosmer]

Amen! I do not have the money, or in all honesty, the desire to purchase more expensive toys.

[Carlsr]

Is this the folding box your talking about?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-50-70-CARTRIDGE-BOX-ONE-OF-A-KIND/310935264559?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.S EED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dded1c 7224d344e099f48c54d67eea105%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D 1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D310935264559%26 itm%3D310935264559%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380 057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aabfee444-50c1-11ea-9983-74dbd180d657%7Cparentrq%3A4e3926af1700a4b7fd2d51bd ffd5e844%7Ciid%3A1

[Dick Hosmer]

No, mine sort of collapses, to store flat, when empty. I think it is a King. Never used by the US military, but a cool period accessory.