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Carlsr
02-14-2021, 09:36
Here is one of my favorites, well they all are :banana100:
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Carlsr
02-14-2021, 09:38
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Tkacook
02-14-2021, 01:01
A beauty indeed! Thanks for sharing!

Dick Hosmer
02-16-2021, 11:41
I recently had the pleasure of seeing an OUTSTANDING private martial arms collection belonging to a (new) friend, who had been totally off the radar, since he (80) does not use a computer. He has very nearly EVERY US military rifle from 1800 to 1900, and most if not all are in excellent to pristine condition, even the many flints! He had contacted me via a referral asking whether I had a Long Range for sale, one of the three pieces he was seeking. With great regret, but out of necessity (on my part) we solved each other's problem, and my Sharps sighted LRR 162036 now has a new home, but it is in WONDERFUL company.

Carlsr
02-20-2021, 04:20
Must be an awesome and huge collection Dick.

Carlsr
02-20-2021, 04:27
Thanks Tkacook. I now have an iron guard knife to go with it. Serial number 61 complete with Varny scabbard purchased from Al. The scabbard is in beautiful condition and the knife has a couple chips but overall in good condition.
I seen one sell on e bay in absolute horrible condition for 100.00 less than paid for mine. Al offers the best prices around for his items!

Tkacook
02-20-2021, 09:43
Yes he does. Love my rod bayonet 1888 rifle I purchased from him.

Andy

Dick Hosmer
02-20-2021, 10:22
Must be an awesome and huge collection Dick.

It is almost indescribable. I DEFINITELY plan another, much longer, visit, or visits - the first trip was a pig-in-a-poke, had NO idea what I'd find when I delivered (had not wanted to ship it) the rifle.

Plus, I just happen to have one more of his (was 3, now 2) "missing/never had found" pieces!

Fred
02-24-2021, 09:46
I’ll bet that one of his remaining two empty niches in his collection is an 1868/1868.

Fred
02-26-2021, 01:53
Dick, if that collector would be willing to dig really deep for your #62 1868, you oughta consider selling it to him too.

Dick Hosmer
02-27-2021, 08:18
No, that's a keeper. He has a minty 1868 (1869) and is happy with that - just wants one of EVERY type (and he's almost there).

He IS planning on purchasing my Winchester-Hotchkiss Army rifle though.

His remaining wants are a Marksman's rifle and a .30 caliber. Lotsa luck on those!

Carlsr
02-28-2021, 08:43
He must have been collecting a long time to acquire all those rifles. I have been searching for a long long long time for a type 1 1870 with no luck at all. There is an 1868/1868 number 93 on proxibid, here is the link. It is in rather bad shape though : ( https://www.proxibid.com/Antique-Springfield-Model-1868-Trapdoor-Infantry-Rifle/lotInformation/59591575#topoflot

Dick Hosmer
02-28-2021, 12:18
50 years! Yeah, that's an awfully rough 68.

Fred
03-02-2021, 01:16
Ha, it certainly is rough.
It needs a cleaning rod, a rear sight ladder and slide and a sling swivel.
That’s at least $300.00 and more.
And that heavily notched or dented stock comb.

Dick Hosmer
03-02-2021, 05:44
Are you bidding? Makes no sense for you and I to get in a blind pissing contest.

I was kicking the idea around - IF it stays REAL cheap, since I have all the parts to make it right, at zero expense, but, it's pretty close to my limit already. Just think, you could have FOUR!!:1948:

Fred
03-09-2021, 10:33
Wow, it looks like a kid or someone used the rifle like they were Davey Crocket and using it like a club, broke the wrist through and inflicted crushing notches down the entire comb.
That explains the broken rear sight ladder and maybe the missing cleaning rod.

45govt
03-09-2021, 04:10
"Wow, it looks like a kid or someone used the rifle like they were Davey Crocket"
Like this

Fred
03-11-2021, 09:06
Great photo!

Fred
03-12-2021, 06:39
The person who gets the rifle will unfortunately never find the correct rear sight leaf that has the experimental sight graduation marks on it. Those will be impossible to locate.
It’s too bad that the sight leaf on it is broken.

Carlsr
03-13-2021, 04:32
It is now at 1200.00.
Will be ending soon. I'd like to have it but seems to be in need of much repair.

Fred
03-14-2021, 08:01
Thank you for telling us about the auction Carl.

Carlsr
03-14-2021, 08:16
Your welcome Fred. Did anyone here win it? Sold for 1200.00 which I guess is a good deal maybe??

Fred
03-14-2021, 09:02
Yes I got it. Thanks.
It’s a good deal for me. For others not so much.
I’ve been particularly focussed on the 68/68 rifles for over 40 years.
Dick Hosmer, myself and maybe three guy’s in China hold that particular interest.

Dick Hosmer
03-14-2021, 09:20
Congratulations, my friend. :1948::1948:

The plan worked. A VERY rare gun, as we know - that makes just 21 known, and just think, you're closing in on a quarter of a case-full!

Some day you'll probably have mine!

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Yes I got it. Thanks.
It’s a good deal for me. For others not so much.
I’ve been particularly focussed on the 68/68 rifles for over 40 years.
Dick Hosmer, myself and maybe three guy’s in China hold that particular interest.

For God's sake, don't alert the Chinese, they'll start making them, just like Morgan dollars!

Fred
03-14-2021, 09:39
Maybe they’ll breed together in the rifle cabinet Dick.

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If the owner who owns rifle #36 reads this, I’m open to purchasing your rifle if you’d like to sell it.

Fred
03-14-2021, 10:20
Congratulations, my friend. :1948::1948:

Some day you'll probably have mine!


That opportunity will only NOT be a sad day for me if you are still alive and well dick.

Dick Hosmer
03-14-2021, 10:55
Well, while I certainly appreciate the sentiment, I'm not planning my exit just yet - still working on a way to do some kayaking with my grandson this spring!

But, you are what, 15 years younger? So, the odds are in your favor and I cannot think of another person whom I would rather see own it.

We've been involved in this together for a LONG time now.

I'll keep looking for the #36 info - it HAD to have been on Frasca.

Carlsr
03-14-2021, 11:34
Congratulations Fred, my earlier bid did not hold and I decided not to go any higher.
I know this is a long shot but if they do breed in your rifle case I’d be most interested in purchasing one :icon_lol:

Fred
03-14-2021, 12:28
Oh, I couldn’t ever split up the litter Carl!

Carlsr
03-14-2021, 02:21
Well ya never know Fred, there’s always one in the litter you can’t wait to leave :icon_lol:

Dick Hosmer
03-15-2021, 09:52
Well ya never know Fred, there’s always one in the litter you can’t wait to leave :icon_lol:

Sorry to rain on your parade, Carl, but Fred and I have had this "68/68 fellowship" going for over forty years now - and we have a mutual "first-refusal" pact in effect. We consulted on this one, and, though sorely tempted, I finally elected not to bid.

Even though I'm really no longer a buyer, I would always "steal" a great rarity, or a very nice piece if one turned up (cheap) in the bushes. And, before I sell my 1870 date, I'd like to have a minty 1869 date just for fun, and to duplicate Graham Burnside's old picture of the three dates side by side.

Fred
03-15-2021, 10:22
:1948:

Carlsr
03-15-2021, 02:55
Well Dick that’s nice that you and Fred have had a long collecting relationship together for many years. I do not know what you mean however by raining on my parade? I don’t see the harm in making an offer as you never know what’s around the corner.
If I had really wanted a 68/68 that one I would have never posted here. I did so because I knew that others here would possibly have more of an interest than myself even though I did put in a couple earlier bids. No heart break on my part. My earlier post to Fred was mainly humor towards his rifles producing a litter. I have a very nice 68/69 that was purchased from Al. In the 1400 range and I’m more than pleased with it. My main interest is in finding an 1870 type I which seems to be an elusive find.

Fred
03-15-2021, 04:25
I think I had one of those once. It had a single shoulder rod and had the number 17 on the left side of barrel and receiver.
Maybe the very first production rifles were numbered before the practice was stopped?
One corner of its thumb latch was rounded.

Fred
03-16-2021, 09:53
Unless Dick wants any of mine, I don’t think that I’ll be selling any of my 68/68 rifles anytime soon.
When I’m too old and out of it, many years from now, I think I’ll want to sell them all together to a Trapdoor Collector who feels that he or she can’t live without them, however many there might be at that time!

Dick Hosmer
03-16-2021, 02:15
Well Dick that’s nice that you and Fred have had a long collecting relationship together for many years. I do not know what you mean however by raining on my parade? I don’t see the harm in making an offer as you never know what’s around the corner.
If I had really wanted a 68/68 that one I would have never posted here. I did so because I knew that others here would possibly have more of an interest than myself even though I did put in a couple earlier bids. No heart break on my part. My earlier post to Fred was mainly humor towards his rifles producing a litter. I have a very nice 68/69 that was purchased from Al. In the 1400 range and I’m more than pleased with it. My main interest is in finding an 1870 type I which seems to be an elusive find.

There was no harm in you making an offer, of course, and humor is always welcome! I only meant that the likelihood of getting a 68/68 out of either of one of us would be doomed to failure! :icon_lol: Nothing personal at all. I do wish you luck in your search for an 1870 - and, should I run across one, I'll let you know at once.