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jon_norstog
04-08-2021, 09:21
This came over the transom this evening, from Heather Cox Richardson. I wish I had written it!

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April 8, 2021
Heather Cox Richardson


On April 8, 1865, General Ulysses S. Grant was having a hard night. His army had been harrying Confederate General Robert E. Lee's for days, and Grant knew it was only a question of time before Lee had to surrender. The people in the Virginia countryside were starving and Lee's army was melting away. Just that morning, a Confederate colonel had thrown himself on Grant's mercy after realizing that he was the only man in his entire regiment who had not already abandoned the cause. But while Grant had twice asked Lee to surrender, Lee still insisted his men could fight on.

So, on the night of April 8, Grant retired to bed in a Virginia farmhouse, dirty, tired, and miserable with a migraine. He spent the night "bathing my feet in hot water and mustard, and putting mustard plasters on my wrists and the back part of my neck, hoping to be cured by morning." It didn't work. When morning came, Grant pulled on his clothes from the day before and rode out to the head of his column with his head throbbing.

As he rode, an escort arrived with a note from Lee requesting an interview for the purpose of surrendering his Army of Northern Virginia. "When the officer reached me I was still suffering with the sick headache," Grant recalled, "but the instant I saw the contents of the note I was cured."

The two men met in the home of Wilmer McLean in the village of Appomattox Court House, Virginia. Lee had dressed grandly for the occasion in a brand new general's uniform carrying a dress sword; Grant wore simply the "rough garb" of a private with the shoulder straps of a Lieutenant General.

But the images of the noble South and the humble North hid a very different reality. As soon as the papers were signed, Lee told Grant his men were starving, and asked if the Union general could provide the Confederates with rations. Grant didn't hesitate. "Certainly," he responded, before asking how many men needed food. He took Lee's answer-- "about twenty-five thousand"-- in stride, telling the general that "he could have... all the provisions wanted."

By spring 1865, Confederates, who had ridden off to war four years before boasting that they would beat the North's money-grubbing shopkeepers in a single battle were broken and starving, while, backed by a booming industrial economy, the Union army could provide rations for twenty-five thousand men on a moment's notice.

The Civil War was won not by the dashing sons of wealthy planters, but by men like Grant, who dragged himself out of his blankets and pulled a dirty soldier's uniform over his pounding head on an April morning because he knew he had to get up and get to work."

Feed 25,000 hungry soldiers, yeah we can do that.

jn

rayg
04-09-2021, 04:39
Good post..

m1ashooter
04-09-2021, 10:18
Thank you for the post.

lyman
04-10-2021, 07:08
there is a guy that lives in Verona, a tiny 'town' just up the road from McClean's land,

his land is one of the last campsites on Lee's Retreat,

he took a metal detector and found spots for the tents and campsites,

now, each year, he puts small lights out at every camp fire spot he found,


my Brother from another Mother participated in a reenactment march of Lee's Retreat , and the guy let them camp for the night near that area,

Major Tom
04-14-2021, 03:47
Thank you all for the remembrence and stories.

JB White
04-15-2021, 06:51
Contrary to schoolbooks, let's keep in mind the Civil War did not end at Appomattox. It continued well into May before the other armies surrendered and about a year later in the west.

rayg
04-18-2021, 04:13
Thanks I keep forgetting as it was so promoted that Appomattox ended it....

Merc
04-18-2021, 08:04
Andrew Johnson’s proclamation officially ended the Civil War on August 20, 1866.

JB White
04-19-2021, 12:05
Thanks for that Merc. Its always refreshing to get first hand accounts from those who were there. :) LOL j/k

Merc
04-19-2021, 05:41
Ah yes, I (almost) remember it well.

I lived the first 22 years of my life in the Bigham House that was a station on the Underground Railroad. Bigham hired black servants and one particular young black servant girl, as the story goes, was fearful of being taken by a slaveholder and would flee to the room with the double windows on the 3rd floor of the house to hide from strangers. That was my bedroom. Bigham flaunted the fugitive slave laws and “gave refuge” to many slaves who were escaping to Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigham_House

togor
04-19-2021, 07:08
People forget sometimes that the Union soldiers had a noble cause of their own for which to fight, and indeed that cause may have been the greater of the two.

dryheat
04-20-2021, 01:23
Lovely. Did it really happen? Sounds nice. There is evidence that enemies can be cordial. Five minutes after WWII we(or the higher ups) forgave the Germans and we pitched in to help them fend off the awful Communists.

Merc
04-20-2021, 05:15
The Civil War had an unusual conclusion because the rebels weren’t tried for treason once defeated. Grant’s terms of surrender: stack your rifles, take your parole papers, promise not to take up arms against the US, keep your animals, officers can keep their side arms and go home. If Lee wasn’t prosecuted, then no-one would be prosecuted.

jon_norstog
04-21-2021, 04:29
Contrary to schoolbooks, let's keep in mind the Civil War did not end at Appomattox. It continued well into May before the other armies surrendered and about a year later in the west.

Joe Johnston was still in the field. He surrendered his army about a week later. Supposedly the last major surrender was General Stand Watie's First Cherokee Rifle regiment didn't give up until June 23, '65


jn

JB White
04-22-2021, 05:04
Joe Johnston was still in the field. He surrendered his army about a week later. Supposedly the last major surrender was General Stand Watie's First Cherokee Rifle regiment didn't give up until June 23, '65


jn

Into '66 there were holdouts in Texas along with guerilla units operating elsewhere. The mop-up took a while. Soldiers in grey/butternut under a flag of the CSA refused to quit and pledge allegiance to the US.
The war may have been over in the northern newspapers but it was still on in hearts and minds. Dangerous times.

Art
04-22-2021, 08:45
The war didn't end at Appomattox because Confederacy didn't end at Appomattox. The government was on the run for a while after and the possibility of a guerilla war was actively discussed but eventually rejected, largely because Lee wouldn't go along. As long as Davis and his cabinet was out there and hadn't formally surrendered and the Confederacy still had armies in the field the war was still on. President Johnson declared the war over on May 9. generally considered the official date, but some Confederate generals did not formally surrender their armies until late June.

Holdouts happen in lots of wars. After WWII some NAZI units held out for weeks. Some Japanese units for years, some small groups and individuals for decades. Some of the Japanese weren't just hiding out but, especially in the Philippines were actually carrying out combat operations for years.