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BradW
10-19-2021, 11:13
I recently read an article by Phil Spangenberger (True West Magazine) about movie studio marked guns and am asking here because I've seen an MGM marked Trapdoor and wondered if the value is any more or less with all things being equal? I'm sure there were plenty of "Cowboy" guns marked with studio property markings but haven't seen any other than the one Trapdoor. Anyone have one or seen any? Thank you.

Dick Hosmer
10-20-2021, 12:30
Speaking for myself, a studio stamping would absolutely be a deal-killing flaw, period. Price would be immaterial - wouldn't buy one at any price.

lyman
10-20-2021, 05:08
Speaking for myself, a studio stamping would absolutely be a deal-killing flaw, period. Price would be immaterial - wouldn't buy one at any price.

I agree,

however if a property record or ledger from said company said that Trapdoor 123 was used by (insert famous actor here) in the movie (insert big time movie name here) someone out there would pay a premium,

JimF
10-20-2021, 06:07
No way would I buy one. . . .

Ever see Richard Boone’s SAA from “Have Gun Will Travel”?

Allen
10-20-2021, 09:28
This is a little off-topic but years ago I purchased an M1A1 carbine movie gun from a seller on ebay. The seller claimed it looked real. I figured maybe a few parts would interchange and perhaps the gun was made with a few actual real parts.

It wasn't photo'ed very well but the seller had good feedback so I took a chance.

When it arrived it looked like something a kid would build out of stuff found in the yard or shed. One side of the stock was badly broken (not photographed) and the rest was made of pinned, welded or riveted metal pieces to resemble an M1A1 from a distance.

It was stamped WB, supposively for Warner Bros.

Due to the broken stock and other aspects being represented untruthfully I returned the item.

BradW
10-20-2021, 11:32
I was just curious, the one I saw appeared correct and in average condition other than the MGM marking and some other number stamped on it, just another part of the guns history, Apparently MGM sold off their stock of props back in 1970 so some must be floating around. I did see a few movie stars guns at the Cody museum a few years ago, interesting but not really my thing.

Tom Doniphon
10-20-2021, 02:51
I've seen dozens of movie prop house marked guns. In fact, years ago I was able to tour the Stembridge Gun Rental business who furnished firearms to the movie and television industry for decades, and I was able to see Tom Mix's Colt SAA, the water cooled machine gun from The Wild Bunch, the GE Gatling gun used in Predator and in Termination 2, and the Lewis machine gun from the 1930s film King Kong. Most prop houses marked their firearms with the name or initials of the company. I have seen 20th Century Fox guns marked "FOX", Stembridge firearms marked with an "S", Ellis Mercantile prop house guns marked with an "E", Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer guns marked "MGM", Warner Bros. guns with a "WB", and Universal Studios guns marked with a "U" over a "P".

lyman
10-20-2021, 02:56
I picked up an estate years ago that had a handful of flint locks pistols and one musket,
supposedly used sometime long ago in a pirate movie

sold the pistols off , they were not marked, but looked about a step above a cheap toy you would by at some historical fort's gift shop,
the musket turned out to be a real Seargant's Fusil from ~1828-1830 based on a Brown Bess,,

kept that one,


I have a customer that is in the business here on the east coast,

he told me they (the prop house) will but a nice original example for the closeups with the lead characther(s),
and buy a beater,

they use the beater to make a mold(s) for pouring resin copies that they paint and hand out to the folks in the background,

he told me the mold making process will tear up a rifle or handgun, so they only buy beaters

Allen
10-20-2021, 05:40
For a while sellers were selling resin prop Garands and Carbines from "Saving Private Ryan" and the "Band of Brothers" escapades.

They were painted to look as much like a real gun as possible with the wood painted redish brown and the gas cylinder on the Garands silver with the rest of the metal near black. Up close they looked very crude, something you could have imagined Fred Flintstone made.

Most of those resin rifles sold on line had warped barrels too.

lyman
10-20-2021, 06:31
the Thompson that Tom Hanks used, now deactivated, is for sale in the UK

kj47
10-23-2021, 06:08
Seen 3 MGM trapdoors in my life time, one even had a flint vice welded to the hammer. All had bad bores, all were 'collectable' priced. was looking for one to shoot at much lower prices.

Tom Trevor
10-23-2021, 10:21
The Alex Baldwin murder gun would sell for a very high premium.

Allen
10-23-2021, 10:42
The liberal hollywood movie directors and actors are already discussing keeping real guns off of the sets rather than keeping idiots and gun illiterate idiots off of the sets.

lyman
10-23-2021, 12:25
odd they used blanks,

I thought all the flash etc had gone to CGI, like in the Wick movies,

or is that just the big budget movies?

JimF
10-24-2021, 08:30
The liberal hollywood movie directors and actors are already discussing keeping real guns off of the sets rather than keeping idiots and gun illiterate idiots off of the sets.

How ?bout just ?keeping idiots and gun illiterate idiots? AWAY FROM the GUNS!! (Whether in the movie industry . . .or ANYWHERE, including our shooting ranges!!)

(AGAIN with the query marks instead of apostrophes and quotation marks!!! When will this get FIXED??)

Allen
10-24-2021, 09:39
How ?bout just ?keeping idiots and gun illiterate idiots? AWAY FROM the GUNS!! (Whether in the movie industry . . .or ANYWHERE, including our shooting ranges!!)

Unfortunately they have the same 2nd amendment constitutional rights as we do and THEY are the ones who want them outlawed, are afraid of them and add to the negative gun accident statistics, and gun related crimes.

The worse they can make guns look the better for them.

As far as the "Rust" Alec Baldwin incident there will be lawsuits but probably no arrest as there's no law against being stupid.

In the end the gun will get the blame.