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Major Tom
03-14-2022, 06:57
Wnet to a website to see how much my 12 year pld car was worth. When completing the check off list, it asked if the gas tank was half full or full! :icon_lol:

togor
03-14-2022, 10:19
Wnet to a website to see how much my 12 year pld car was worth. When completing the check off list, it asked if the gas tank was half full or full! :icon_lol:

If it matters then you must be driving a Ford. :)

lyman
03-14-2022, 05:41
If it matters then you must be driving a Ford. :)

surprisingly, every time we take our Ford Shop Van in for oil changes etc, we get offers on it,

2005 E-350, diesel, (pre def or whatever that crap is you have to add to the Diesels now) and less than 100K mileage,

sorry,, no

togor
03-14-2022, 07:32
Missed the smiley I see.

lyman
03-14-2022, 08:47
no, the truck in my driveway is a Toyota

Major Tom
03-15-2022, 05:50
If it matters then you must be driving a Ford. :)

What?? What the H do you mean by that absurd post? Stupid is as stupid does I guess up there in Minn.!
BTW, the vehicle in question is a Cadillac. My other vehicle is a 2005 Callaway Corvette with a 650 HP super charged engine. Goes along good with my old Harley Sportster.

Merc
03-15-2022, 10:06
My 2018 Toyota Highlander V-6 Hybrid that I bought new is still worth almost what I paid for it. Gas was cheap back then and some people questioned the wisdom of spending the extra money for a hybrid that gets 25-35 MPG. No-one is questioning the wisdom now.

togor
03-15-2022, 10:10
What?? What the H do you mean by that absurd post? Stupid is as stupid does I guess up there in Minn.!
BTW, the vehicle in question is a Cadillac. My other vehicle is a 2005 Callaway Corvette with a 650 HP super charged engine. Goes along good with my old Harley Sportster.

It's a harmless Ford joke! And you're right they drive a lot of Fords in MN.

My dad drove GM. My first car was a '69 Mopar with a 383. Treated me right while I learned how to fix it. I do not miss leaded gas, the way it used to eat exhaust systems. Can tell you that!

My driveway has been GM and Chrysler since. Yeah I know, a good way to accumulate automotive specialty tools! :)

Back to Fords. Did drive a F150 manual 4x4 short box for a few years, and a beater Thunderbird (late 70's so junk off the line) for one winter. Both 302, the T-bird had coolant in the crankcase. The truck was a phenomenal snow machine but rust consumed the underbody, pans and linkages.

My sense is that GM and Chrysler were similar to each other in how they did things, and Ford tended to go their own way. The "Detroit Lions" of the auto industry, LOL.

My grandfather was a mechanic at Metropolitan Cadillac in Milwaukee, and always drove one. Loved being in his cars! Sounds like you have two awesome machines and come by your dislike of gas prices honestly! :)

Major Tom
03-16-2022, 10:27
My Caddy gets 21 mpg highway and 16 mpg city. So I'm a little leery of gas prices now! I'm sure uncle joe will help me though!

lyman
03-16-2022, 12:33
It's a harmless Ford joke! And you're right they drive a lot of Fords in MN.

My dad drove GM. My first car was a '69 Mopar with a 383. Treated me right while I learned how to fix it. I do not miss leaded gas, the way it used to eat exhaust systems. Can tell you that!

My driveway has been GM and Chrysler since. Yeah I know, a good way to accumulate automotive specialty tools! :)

Back to Fords. Did drive a F150 manual 4x4 short box for a few years, and a beater Thunderbird (late 70's so junk off the line) for one winter. Both 302, the T-bird had coolant in the crankcase. The truck was a phenomenal snow machine but rust consumed the underbody, pans and linkages.

My sense is that GM and Chrysler were similar to each other in how they did things, and Ford tended to go their own way. The "Detroit Lions" of the auto industry, LOL.

My grandfather was a mechanic at Metropolitan Cadillac in Milwaukee, and always drove one. Loved being in his cars! Sounds like you have two awesome machines and come by your dislike of gas prices honestly! :)



GM and Mopar the same or similar?

lordy,,, some collectors (likely on both sides) might have words with you about that,



my Uncle, a Ford guy (he has a 30 Mod A, and had a few parts cars/runners) , told me the reason you saw some many older Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth cars in barns etc to restore was because they broke down so much folks gave up on them and bought GM or Ford,
he had a Dodge van to as a shop van (he retired as a cabinet maker/ furniture maker)


in these parts Ford's were favored over GM simply because a Ford would not rust out as fast,
GM's were thought to come rusty from the factory

Merc
03-16-2022, 09:44
GM and Mopar the same or similar?

lordy,,, some collectors (likely on both sides) might have words with you about that,



my Uncle, a Ford guy (he has a 30 Mod A, and had a few parts cars/runners) , told me the reason you saw some many older Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth cars in barns etc to restore was because they broke down so much folks gave up on them and bought GM or Ford,
he had a Dodge van to as a shop van (he retired as a cabinet maker/ furniture maker)


in these parts Ford's were favored over GM simply because a Ford would not rust out as fast,
GM's were thought to come rusty from the factory

I am fairly impressed with the way our 2011 Toyota Sienna minivan is holding up. It was our first Toyota. No rust anywhere and very reliable. We trust it enough to drive it to Florida every winter even though it has 195K on the odometer. There are two stories about Tundras on the Internet. Both have been driven over 1 million miles. I have been looking at the new Sienna hybrids and find them tempting.

Merc
03-22-2022, 09:24
Another Toyota dealer called today asking to buy my 2018 Highlander Hybrid. They have buyers lined up but no new cars are available.

Allen
03-22-2022, 10:39
Another Toyota dealer called today asking to buy my 2018 Highlander Hybrid. They have buyers lined up but no new cars are available.

Almost always when you're speaking of a dealer, when they say they want to "buy" it really means they will "take" it away for you.

I have people pull in all the time off the highway wanting things in my yard, my cars/trucks/mowers, etc. They want to take them for free providing it has a fresh battery, good tires, full tank of gas and runs like a new one.

I have to hide things.

Merc
03-22-2022, 12:29
These are difficult times for the auto business. Supply chain shortages have slowed new car production and created shortages which has driven up prices of both new and used cars. I have my two Toyotas serviced by different dealerships. I like to wander around the lots looking at the new and used cars just mostly to kill time. The one thing that you notice right away is how few new cars are for sale. The show rooms have been bare for some time

Allen
03-22-2022, 03:09
These are difficult times for the auto business. Supply chain shortages have slowed new car production and created shortages which has driven up prices of both new and used cars. I have my two Toyotas serviced by different dealerships. I like to wander around the lots looking at the new and used cars just mostly to kill time. The one thing that you notice right away is how few new cars are for sale. The show rooms have been bare for some time

I understand. Quality used cars are in shortage too. I'm just saying that just because you got an offer/offers from the dealerships doesn't mean it is or will be a good offer. Regardless of your make, what you have is chit until they get it, then it is a giant gold nugget.

All the stimulus money, extended unemployment, child credit money, and rent/house payment forgiveness that went on in 2020 and 2021 was mostly used to buy big screen TV's, beer, and used cars. The car lots were pretty much dried up before the chip shortage and distribution problems came up on new car delivery so yeah, cars are in short supply now.

Still, an auto dealer isn't going to offer you an attractive figure for your vehicle. If you were to sell it think of the cost and problems you would have now buying another one to replace it. You would be in that line of people you mentioned waiting for a new one, regardless of what brand it is.

Merc
03-22-2022, 07:07
I understand. Quality used cars are in shortage too. I'm just saying that just because you got an offer/offers from the dealerships doesn't mean it is or will be a good offer. Regardless of your make, what you have is chit until they get it, then it is a giant gold nugget.

All the stimulus money, extended unemployment, child credit money, and rent/house payment forgiveness that went on in 2020 and 2021 was mostly used to buy big screen TV's, beer, and used cars. The car lots were pretty much dried up before the chip shortage and distribution problems came up on new car delivery so yeah, cars are in short supply now.

Still, an auto dealer isn't going to offer you an attractive figure for your vehicle. If you were to sell it think of the cost and problems you would have now buying another one to replace it. You would be in that line of people you mentioned waiting for a new one, regardless of what brand it is.

I agree.