E2 = Canoe paddle

[nf1e]

Finished up some work on a precision .223 bolt rifle early so I figured it was a good time to monkey around with my E2. I normally shoot this with a Burris 4.5 - 14 mounted on a Bassett rail mount. This morning I decided to go more traditional scopes for a couple of photos. This rifle is an LRB M14 sa with all usgi parts.
First photos are with an M40 3-9 on an AWC mount. Second are M-84 on a MC-1 mount. Whatta Hobby!


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[lyman]

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GI Stock with all the bits installed,
correct sling
US Modified Bipod


every thing is US except the receiver, it is a Springfield I converted to NFA in 85 or early 86

[Allen]

They do look like canoe paddles but they have a good feel to them.

[SteveC]

Impressive rifles gentlemen!

Steve

[blackhawknj]

Reminds me of an FAL. The M-15 was officially adopted as the BAR version of the M-14 but never put into production.

[Allen]

Reminds me of an FAL. The M-15 was officially adopted as the BAR version of the M-14 but never put into production.

From my readings the M-14 was never that controllable during FA fire. The selector switch was sometimes replaced with a lock to prevent soldiers from selecting from semi to FA mode thus saving ammo and missed shots.

The canoe paddle stock with the front folding grip, the heavy steel bipod and muzzle break apparently did little to tame the muzzle rise. If it had worked and put into production this would have been known as the M-15.

A 3 round burst application like the later m-16's might have been the solution?

Overall the M-14 became more of a Garand replacement rather than a Garand and BAR replacement.

[nf1e]

The myth about not being able to control the M14 on fa is just that. Proper training and trigger manipulation overcomes most problems. The majority of M14s issued to our forces in Vietnam included an installed lockout button so that was not a problem. The internet googleboys have made this out to much more serious than it really was.

[lyman]

The myth about not being able to control the M14 on fa is just that. Proper training and trigger manipulation overcomes most problems. The majority of M14s issued to our forces in Vietnam included an installed lockout button so that was not a problem. The internet googleboys have made this out to much more serious than it really was.

true,

mine is quite controllable even with the standard wood stock ,

the slip over comp helps just a bit, (not present on the pic of my MG)


the selector lock was to keep troops from wasting ammo,

the M16 had one available as well, a funky aluminum piece that was installed between the grip and the receiver, to stop the selector from being turned to full, that most folks broke off

[nf1e]

Never saw the lockout for the M16. Did run into tons of Army boys in our EM club that bragged about how many mags they had dumped that day. Seemed kinda silly. Never hear a Marine comment on anything like that.

[JimF]

I once fired FA M14 offhand . . . . .

I figured I’d let the web sling hang from the front swivel to the ground and place my foot firmly on the other end.

It helped!

[blackhawknj]

The only time I saw an M-14 fired full auto was in BCT, Fort Dix, Summer of 1967. To emphasize that it did not kick like a mule, "tear your shoulder off", one of the instructors would fire one full auto from his chin-and his crotch. They were using tracers so you could tell they weren't faking it.

[nf1e]

That would be hard to imagine. They have pretty respectable recoil even in semi mode. Guy must have been a pretty rugged moron to try a fool stunt like that.

[blackhawknj]

55 years later I can still see it clearly.
One infantryman who served in Germany in 1968 said their armorer rigged up an additional muzzle brake, basically a flat piece of the metal attached under the muzzle, said it worked pretty well.
The M-15 was a heavy barrel version of the M-14 meant to be the new BAR. Again, officially adopted but never put into production.
Always thought the Bren Gun was the best light machine gun, quick change barrel.