Stevens Pope 22 caliber Krag carbine

[Kragrifle]

Hasn?t been a new post in awhile so I thought I?d show off a pretty scarce 22 Krag. Stevens Pope produced a number of 22 LR barrels for the New Jersey guard between about 1901-1903. They were to be used for training being cheaper to shoot than the 30/40 cartridges. This spurred Springfield into coming up with a design of their own the result of which was a terribly complicated and delicate Gallery Practice 22 Long rifle (BTW the only 22 Long rifle produced for military training).

Stevens Pope did produce a few carbine length barrels, perhaps as few as three. This is a carbine I first saw at the Baltimore show 10-15 years ago. I was out bid then, but fate gave me another chance.

[Kragrifle]

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[Dick Hosmer]

Outstanding - thanks for sharing!

[JimF]

. . . . . (BTW the only 22 Long rifle produced for military training). . . . .

I thought at least SOME of the M1922 Springfield .22 cal. rifles were used by troops for “military training.”

[Parashooter]

.22 Long
.22 Long Rifle

Different cartridge, different twist. (Still confused?):icon_scratch:

[Dick Hosmer]

.22 Long
.22 Long Rifle

Different cartridge, different twist. (Still confused?):icon_scratch:

Same case, different bullet. Even more confusion.

[Tom Trevor]

I once had a fill length rifle marked .22 with the Stevens -Pope barrel it was a fun shooter. range apes would always ask why the hell did they make .22 krags? My story was that the army in the Islands wanted to capture locals for information but the 30-40 kept killing them so the army brought in .22 rifle to just wound them. I think once in a while I was believed.

[JohnMOhio]

Good story Tom. There is one or two born every day. I try to avoid them.

[Kragrifle]

I have collected Krags for a long time and have a particular affinity for the 22rf cartridge. Did a complete display of 22 cal Krags at the Kansas City show several years ago, but no award. Is there anything anyone would like to see?

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[Tom Trevor]

Kragrifle, Show a shot of the receiver marked CAL.22 I doubt many have seen one.

[Dick Hosmer]

Is the receiver marked .22 on the S-P barreled guns? Thought that was just on the SA-GP rifle? BTW, Kragrifle, fantastic piece!

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[Kragrifle]

These are two of the GP Krags I have been able to find. Remember these were produced in 1907 right up to production of the first Hoffer Thompson 1903’s. Only the Springfield produced GP Krags will have these receiver markings. That said, the second of these two receivers is on a carbine length firearm and has a chamber at 12 o’clock just like the Stevens Pope pieces.

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[Dick Hosmer]

Thanks, but which gun is that? Pictures are TINY!

[Kragrifle]

That is the 22 cal carbine with the GP receiver. Barrel is set up with the chamber at 12 o’clock similar to, but different from the Stevens-Pope barrels. Mallory or Brophy have photos of similar Springfield designs, but I have no proof this was made at Springfield. This might suggest Springfield reconsidered their design after fooling with the way too complicated spring loaded carrier design and used on of the GP receivers in this carbine since these receivers are cut out to facilitate access to the chamber while loading single cartridges.

I can send bigger photos by email if anyone is interested. By the way Dick, I’m still interested in a book with Amazon on the 1922 Springfield series of 22 RF but need help with getting started.