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We all know about the Chinese spy balloon and are now hearing about cylinder and octagonal shaped objects being shot down. Except for the balloon it's all top secret right now.
What I want to know is: is it purely coincidental that these unknown objects are appearing at the same time the balloon was noticed? Does China have advanced high altitude drones that can spy or are these in fact alien UFO's? If they are alien I have doubts they could be taken out by our missiles based upon previous info from pilots who filmed and commented on their speed and actions. If they are Chinese, Russian, or others, they have some advanced, dangerous (to us) crap flying around.
If we are speaking of 2 different things here: Chinese and aliens, why all the attention now? Have our sky's been neglected till now?
This may explain some of it or at least it is an excuse.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-mysterious-flying-objects-173547135.html
Major Tom
02-13-2023, 11:08
The whole democratic plan with balloons, etc. is to draw attention away from Biden's documents, border crisis, Hunter connections, etc! Mean while Joe is hiding out in his basement again to avoid questions!
Roadkingtrax
02-13-2023, 04:22
Can't we at least be original here.
barretcreek
02-13-2023, 07:08
What's being shot down is whatever credibility we had left. Xi is laughing his butt off along with everyone else.
What's being shot down is whatever credibility we had left. Xi is laughing his butt off along with everyone else.
No doubt but it all began back in November of 2020.
It is Balloon, or an evil spirit.
The Hekawis knew what was being shot down.
Link to Hekawis shooting down balloon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyERnu7zUw
Johnny P
02-16-2023, 10:01
Can't we at least be original here.
Get tired of rebutting your own posts in the Political forum?
Roadkingtrax
02-16-2023, 09:45
Get tired of rebutting your own posts in the Political forum?
Did you come up for some air?
Can't we at least be original here.
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Roadkingtrax
02-17-2023, 07:09
Lyman, that works!
Hope all is well.
jdmcgrath
02-17-2023, 07:36
Like anything else that goes unnoticed until someone goes too far. Chinese balloon was meant for Guam or Pearl but the wind had other ideas. Now anything up there is suspect. Probably should have been paying closer attention all along.
Its starting to look like the US Air Force has been using F22 fighters to, at least in one case, shoot down people's toy baloons. You have to show you're doing something, right?
How is it that a missile was required . . . .when a single .50 caliber from a machine gun would pop anybody’s balloon?
These are very high altitude balloons. If they are above reach of a jet and gunfire then a missile is needed.
These are very high altitude balloons. If they are above reach of a jet and gunfire then a missile is needed.
True in some cases, but the F22 has a service ceiling of 65,000 feet, plenty high enough to handle a balloon at 60,000 feet.
However, my post above refers to a hobby club balloon that belonged to some enthusiasts whose organization is called, IIRC, "Bottlecap Balloons." They say one of their balloons disappeared over Alaska at about the time of the Alaska shootdown. There is growing speculation that the great lakes shootdown also involved some sort of vehicle being operated, again, by some recreational folks. Notice how the "gubmint" doesn't seem real interested in looking too hard for the remains of these other vehicles. The government isn't going to want to admit they are shooting down peoples toys to look good, after letting the real problem child drift all the way across the US soaking up intel all the way.
The only good thing about this is the Air Force got in some live fire practice though at very passive targets, one of which they seem to have missed with the first Sidewinder.
True in some cases, but the F22 has a service ceiling of 65,000 feet, plenty high enough to handle a balloon at 60,000 feet.
However, my post above refers to a hobby club balloon that belonged to some enthusiasts whose organization is called, IIRC, "Bottlecap Balloons." They say one of their balloons disappeared over Alaska at about the time of the Alaska shootdown. There is growing speculation that the great lakes shootdown also involved some sort of vehicle being operated, again, by some recreational folks. Notice how the "gubmint" doesn't seem real interested in looking too hard for the remains of these other vehicles. The government isn't going to want to admit they are shooting down peoples toys to look good, after letting the real problem child drift all the way across the US soaking up intel all the way.
The only good thing about this is the Air Force got in some live fire practice though at very passive targets, one of which they seem to have missed with the first Sidewinder.
The last balloon shot down took 2 missiles @ $380,000 ea plus the cost of using the plane and all the ground support so about $1M.
The first balloon, the Chinese spy balloon, was large and talk was it could soar 120,000 high.
#2 and #3 " objects shot down were announced (by the pilots) as cylinder shaped and octagonal shaped------no more mention of these. #4 balloon does sound like a toy that cost the tax payer about $1M to shoot down having no mass and no produced heat causing the first missile to miss.
I may be missing something as the news, just like our history, is re-written all the time.
The most important thing is though that all the attention is off of Hunter and biden's corruption along with the confidential files drama quickly fading away.
The last balloon shot down took 2 missiles @ $380,000 ea plus the cost of using the plane and all the ground support so about $1M.
The first balloon, the Chinese spy balloon, was large and talk was it could soar 120,000 high.
#2 and #3 " objects shot down were announced (by the pilots) as cylinder shaped and octagonal shaped------no more mention of these. #4 balloon does sound like a toy that cost the tax payer about $1M to shoot down having no mass and no produced heat causing the first missile to miss.
I may be missing something as the news, just like our history, is re-written all the time.
The most important thing is though that all the attention is off of Hunter and biden's corruption along with the confidential files drama quickly fading away.
First, you are right about attention being off the Hunter Biden graft and corruption case, but the Biden strategy for everything is to ignore it which is true of the OP also.
The dope on the ChiCom Balloon was that it was at about 60,000 feet which makes sense as the only reason we know it existed today was an old boy seeing it from the ground and then it being reported in a newspaper. At 120,000 feet, 20 miles plus uo, I doubt it would have been seen from the ground. Except for that we probably wouldn't be talking about this at all.
These incursions seem to have been happening through at least three administrations with nothing being done about it because it seems, nobody in the DoD bothered to tell anybody in the Obama and Trump administrations, including the Secretary of Defense that it was going on :icon_e_surprised: :icon_scratch: . At least that's their story and they're sticking to it. More proof that you can't trust these people...full stop.
"could" soar at 120,000'. What I remember reading was, when spotted it was estimated at 70,000--75,000' but that's neither here nor there now. Per my posted article a different radar system is being used now that tracts small objects and apparently non-metal devices. May be true or may be an excuse for the defense dept for sleeping on the job (for decades).
https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-mysterious-flying-objects-173547135.html
These are very high altitude balloons. If they are above reach of a jet and gunfire then a missile is needed.
But, don’t these missle-bearing jets have a .50 cal. gun as well?
But, don’t these missle-bearing jets have a .50 cal. gun as well?
20mm for the F-22. Range is listed as 2,000 meters so about 6400 feet.
Just FYI.
The service altitude of the 1960s F-4 Phantom was about 59,000 ft. The altitude record achieved was over 98,000 but crews were limited to 50,000 feet without pressure suits.
Balloons at high altitudes have a very low PSI and do not pop.
A hundred thousand ft. It's pretty low when compared to what is considered outer space, but that's incredible when you consider a plane could fly that high. There's not much "to grab on to" up there.
Dumb balloons, just go where they will until they don't. I've seen weather balloons way up there with the naked eye. We can't waste too much time(or money) chasing every weather balloon.
Balloons don't scare me much.
I've never liked clowns(I didn't like clowns before I knew it was cool).
I've got to get my little dig in;
So Biden goes over to visit Ukraine; Promises another 500 million or so to protect them from invasion by their cousins the Russians with no concern at all about the invasion ongoing here. It's just Mexicans and they don't fire missiles at us. It's OK. I like tacos and burritos and enchiladas. I can spell all of that, I guess we are accustomed.
Despite all the cover up, proof of spying, and smoke screens the balloons have presented have you noticed how quickly the news of the 2nd and 3rd "objects" was hushed?
1. Chinese spy balloon.
2. Unknown cylinder shaped object
3. Unknown octagonal shaped object as reported by the pilot that shot it down.
4. $12 toy balloon.
After all the hype over the well known spy balloon the news quickly changed over to the last one, the $12 toy balloon to get everyone's attention off of the other ones that were never evaluated. Reading readers comments on printed articles, the plan seems to have worked with so many people criticizing and dismissing all of them now as toys w/o a clue of knowledge.
I think the news on #2 and #3 was an accidental leak that we weren't suppose to hear about. Have you also noticed there's been no updates nor any additional news of shooting one down or even a sighting?
For decades all we heard about was "weather balloon" from the government when a UFO was reported. From now on it will be "toy balloon" or drone.
My 2 cents.
Maybe it was the 5th Dimension balloon :icon_scratch: the one that got away in 67! :eusa_dance::icon_wink:
Maybe it was the 5th Dimension balloon :icon_scratch: the one that got away in 67! :eusa_dance::icon_wink:
I wish and I wish it had been shot down in '67. I really got tired of hearing that and the theme to "2001 Space Odyssey".
I wish and I wish it had been shot down in '67. I really got tired of hearing that and the theme to "2001 Space Odyssey".
:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol: :icon_wink:
Major Tom
03-10-2023, 04:26
Wasn't it a weather balloon that crashed in Roswell, NM? Unforchunately it crashed on some wierd animals that were thought to be extraterrestials. Boy, my spelling check is off today.
Government still covering things up.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11907515/Pentagon-REFUSES-release-shot-UFO-footage-North-America.html
Vern Humphrey
03-27-2023, 01:19
But, don?t these missle-bearing jets have a .50 cal. gun as well?
Some have 20mm -- but these balloons have very low pressure at those altitudes, so simply poking holes in them doesn't work very well.
#2 and #3 " objects shot down were announced (by the pilots) as cylinder shaped and octagonal shaped------no more mention of these.
It looks like there will never be any mention as to what these were. The pilots are probably in hot water for even describing what they looked like.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-fighter-jets-shooting-down-ufos-alaska-is-classified-wont-be-released-pentagon
They aren't from outer space. It's hard to get ballons to go down. I kind of wonder why they don't all go out into space, but it probably has something to do with gravity. Sort of like the salt and peppers shakers on the table. They don't fall through the table and they don't levitate off the table either. Ballons are elastic. They can expand to a certain limit and then they blow up. I'm sure some kid is studying all this. I should study this, it's kind of cool.
If #2 and #3 are just balloons why all the hush? They certainly made a big enough fuss over #1 (which the Chinese admit to) and #4 (toy) which may be a cover up or distraction.
How many more "whatever's" are being shot down and not disclosed since it's suddenly become top secret?
They are above spilling their guts to people who aren't a threat to them. How' that?
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