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[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

I think I know what happened to the missing documents Steve can't find...

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Smile, Steve, my mother always said I had a weird sense of humor.

[cplnorton]

Many times I have looked at a rifle that was only worth $3000 to $5000 in parts, but because I tell someone I believe the rifle is a real Marine Sniper, they shell out $20,000 - $45,000 dollars. It is truly a humbling experience to have someone have so much faith in your rsearch that they can shell out $40,000 more than what a rifle is worth.

So because of this I take this topic and my research extremely serious. Whether you agree with me or not, there are many who are willing to spend a huge amount of money based on the statements I make.

Also on the reverse end I have had to tell people who spent $45,000 on a rifle that I can prove is not real. Which I cannot tell you how heartbreaking it is when I have to have those discussions with collectors and I provide them the research to know the rifle is fake, and they realize it is true. They saw some faulty research posted online or in a book and thought that it was correct. So that is why if I see something posted I know is not correct, I comment. Then anyone reading it can know there is contradictory info out there and they can research it and make up their own mind.

This hobby is fun, but the amount of money in these rifles is insane.

I remember all of this every single time I post a comment or statement.

[nf1e]

Love reading all this stuff. Me , I am just a lowly shooter that is very happy with my 03A4 repro by James River. History is interesting as is the research that goes into providing some of it to us. Now , the interpretation part of a presentation is something else.

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

Many times I have looked at a rifle that was only worth $3000 to $5000 in parts, but because I tell someone I believe the rifle is a real Marine Sniper, they shell out $20,000 - $45,000 dollars. It is truly a humbling experience to have someone have so much faith in your rsearch that they can shell out $40,000 more than what a rifle is worth.

Oh dear Lord. There is nothing in your background that qualifies you as an expert in anything. You have been doing this for only a few years. I pity anyone who relies on you as an expert. If you have been advising people to buy ultra expensive rifles based on what you think is a Marine sniper rifle, all I can say is caveat emptor. You can't even spell "research". Documents be damned. Do you know how many documents exist that claim the earth is the center of the universe? Thousands. Guess what? It isn't true. Neither is your version of the Marine sniper rifle.

[cplnorton]

The top Marine Sniper Collectors are small in number and very secretive. Everyone knows everyone, and we have even formed into a group where we share all our rifles and research in a secret Facebook group. Almost every famous name in this field is involved, and anyone we feel who can add to the knowledge base is invited.

All new rifles found are shown and examined, as well as any new research.

I'm not trying to be rude Jim, but you were gone for many years and have no idea what actually is happening in this field anymore. Everything has changed over the past 10 years.

[lyman]

keep it between the ditches please,,,

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

No problem, Lyman. It was a knee jerk reaction on my part.

Steve, we are dealing with history, and nothing we do now, changes history. I think it is nice you found some friends.

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

The top Marine Sniper Collectors are small in number and very secretive.

Wow, since you guys are top collectors, you should be able to post at least one A5 Marine sniper matched set, rifle, scope and case, all matched to a verifiable sniper in the Muster Rolls. We eagerly await your post.



Everyone knows everyone, and we have even formed into a group where we share all our rifles and research in a secret Facebook group. Almost every famous name in this field is involved, and anyone we feel who can add to the knowledge base is invited.

Secretive, eh? Your bunch may have a bit of trouble advancing the collector's knowledge base if they are so secretive. Why so secretive? Any of you Nazi sympathizers, or something you need to hide? I am a Mason, and we are pretty secretive, but we have the Children's Hospital, and we are pretty proud of it. You guys got something like that? We have a secret handshake too. You guys got one of those?

So, you don't think the members of this forum are good enough to be a member of your secret society? How rude, and insulting.


All new rifles found are shown and examined, as well as any new research.

I thought that was the purpose of this forum. Maybe we should be more secretive. Does secrecy further the collector field? What is it that you don't want us peons to know? I didn't know there was a hierarchy in the collecting field. I learn something new every day. If you don't mind too much, I don't want any part of your secret society. I'll stick with what brung me - the forum.


I'm not trying to be rude Jim, but you were gone for many years and have no idea what actually is happening in this field anymore. Everything has changed over the past 10 years.

I've been absent from this forum for three years while I restored an old car. I don't think WWI history has changed one iota in the last 100-years. I realize you are trying to change that, but I am back now, driving a beautiful 65-years old car, and I prefer to preserve history, not re-write it to suit what I own.

You guys got tee-shirts? :eusa_whistle:

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[Allen]

Nice work on the T-bird. Always wanted one.

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

Nice work on the T-bird. Always wanted one.

Thank you. My third one. Had an "E" Bird in college. This one is my daily driver. Zero oil leaks. Starts instantly.

[Allen]

Oh my, an "E" code. On the TV auto auctions those sell for double or more.

When young my parents had a 57 Ford Fairlane with the 312 engine and a "3 on the tree". My Dad accidentally took off several times in 3rd gear instead of 1st gear. Though the car didn't respond as well it did fine. My Dad was always amazed by this and the power that engine had.

Always been a T-bird fan. To this day I still can't understand why they aren't more sought after than they are, even the big ones. We had a '65 with all the unique T-bird features. Later I bought a '90 for my daily driver and a '92 and '94 for my kids. Different animals from the 2 seater like yours but still some originality. Plus, they were good cars.

[cplnorton]

The reason the majority of the top collectors will not get on these forums is because of postings like Jim just posted here.

I've tried to encourage them to get on the forums, but unfortunately a few low class people keep them away. For the amount of good people on these forums, a few bad ones ruin it for them. They also have no desire to argue about research that was disproven years ago.

The majority of the real Marine Sniper rifles are not shown online, and are in collections the owners would like to remain private.

[Allen]

Can we please switch to another subject or end this one?

We all appreciate the input and info from both of you but since the two of you disagree and the skillet is kept hot this thread is not going to heal itself and walk away peacefully.

Maybe approach the subject again in a new thread from a different angle ?

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

The reason the majority of the top collectors will not get on these forums is because of postings like Jim just posted here.

Say what? You don't like '57 T'Birds?


I've tried to encourage them to get on the forums, but unfortunately a few low class people keep them away. For the amount of good people on these forums, a few bad ones ruin it for them. They also have no desire to argue about research that was disproven years ago.

I am not believing you just called members, or any member, of this forum "low class". Who are you that you can make such a judgement? Do you have a list of these "low class" forum members?

The very reason we are having these exchanges is that you have "proven" nothing. I have continually asked you to publish the "proof" you claim to possess, and you continually refuse. That leads me to believe you have, nor ever had, any "proof" of anything.


The majority of the real Marine Sniper rifles are not shown online, and are in collections the owners would like to remain private.

If they bought "Marine sniper rifles" based on your recommendations, I think I know why they don't want to post them online.

Young man, your arrogance is just unbelievable. You actually called members of this forum, whom I wager you have never met, "low class". I strongly disagree.

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Can we please switch to another subject or end this one?

We all appreciate the input and info from both of you but since the two of you disagree and the skillet is kept hot this thread is not going to heal itself and walk away peacefully.

Maybe approach the subject again in a new thread from a different angle ?

I think that is a very good idea, Allen.

[Allen]

Glad you agree.

I'm going to close it.

[lyman]

Glad you agree.

I'm going to close it.

thank you