7.2 number 2

[Marine A5 Sniper Rifle]

Good morning, everyone. The saga continues. To refresh everyone's memory, this is the statement Norton made.


Originally Posted by cplnorton
Winchester created their version of the A5 Sniper that they called the Marine Mount in April/May 1917. They did not have a 7.2'' spacing blocks for the M1903 prior to that date.

Please note that WRA called their 7.2" spacing base the "Springfield Marine" base, NOT the "Marine Mount". Any time WRA makes mention of "Marine Mount" it is a reference to the modified #2 mount with Niedner type taper bases. Norton has confused the two.

My latest contribution is '03 SN 547038. This rifle was sold in 2013 on the Julia Auction site. The auction's rifle description is shown below. This is a 1913 rifle, and no one has claimed it is a sniper rifle. Please note, the A5 scope is mounted in unmodified WRA #2 mounts on 7.2" spacing, which requires a "Springfield Marine" set of bases.

Enjoy. More to come. :hello:

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[cplnorton]

Nothing of what Jim just posted is correct.

Winchester, Lyman, Fecker, Unertl, and even repo scope bases made by malcomb or Steve Earle would mount that A5 scope to that M1903. All these companies make or made a scope base that could attach that A5 to that M1903. All of these companies basically copied off the original Winchester design.

There are only minor differences in the different makers of these bases and none of these different makers can be indentified when the scope is still on the rifle. They all look the same when the scope is attached. The scope must be removed and the blocks must be examined from all sides to tell who made them.

Because of this, there is no possible way Jim can identify who made the bases on this rifle by the pics provided, nor can he make any claim Winchester made them.

There are only 5 sets of Winchester Marine bases that are know to exist. Even though about every Famous Sniper Collector I know has been looking for them for years. They are by far the rarest to find. There are only 4 sets in private hands and one set at the Cody Museum in the Winchester collection.

Since there are only 5 sets known to exist there is very little chance this rifle has them. Especially since looking at the pictures the bases are located at the wrong spot on the receiver and the handguard is copied after the WWII style Unertl.

This rifle looks like a rifle someone was trying to copy a WWII Unertl Sniper So the bases are likely recently made.

For anyone to make any claims of this rifle, you would have to find this rifle and examine it in great detail by tearing it apart.

These pics will not tell you anything other than the rifle is very highly suspect of a recent build.

Anyone making any claims of who made the scope bases that attached that A5 scope to this rifle is only guessing.



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[lyman]

My latest contribution is '03 SN 547038. This rifle was sold in 2013 on the Julia Auction site. The auction's rifle description is shown below. This is a 1913 rifle, and no one has claimed it is a sniper rifle. Please note, the A5 scope is mounted in unmodified WRA #2 mounts on 7.2" spacing, which requires a "Springfield Marine" set of bases.

how does this help or contribute to the conversation(s)?


your comments are about as vague as the auction description, (which has that disclaimer at the end based on Canfield serial numbers) and honestly do not seem relative to the discussions that have been ongoing,