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This is an article about the militaries phase out of the M14 rifle system with emphasis on the Designated Marksman variations. I've never seen so much stunningly inaccurate information in a piece in a reputable publication. See how much BS you can find.
I'll start. The M14 does not use a long stroke gas system.
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-us-military-getting-rid-of-m14-2016-9
So, if soldiers love the gun, it must be pretty decent, right? Sure, so long as the rifle is clamped into a very heavy, expensive chassis and the soldier carrying it never drops it, or touches the handguards. Seriously, disturbing the gun’s bedding – the way it’s glued into a stock — doesn’t just shift point of impact; it reduces overall accuracy. Therein lies the biggest problem with the M14: accurizing the rifle and holding on to that accuracy.
pfft
Phloating Phlasher
04-21-2023, 03:30
The only "gluing" I remember was to bond the stock liner to the stock?
It was part of the USMC accurizing manual I followed with my M1a. The barrel was raised on a "sleeve" (jig)& the stock liner clamped in place & epoxied to the wood stock& left to cure.
That allowed the "hook" on the Front band to apply constant down pressure to the barrel when the action was clamped into the stock.
The only "gluing" I remember was to bond the stock liner to the stock?
It was part of the USMC accurizing manual I followed with my M1a. The barrel was raised on a "sleeve" (jig)& the stock liner clamped in place & epoxied to the wood stock& left to cure.
That allowed the "hook" on the Front band to apply constant down pressure to the barrel when the action was clamped into the stock.
you first glass the liner to the stock,
then l action (including a blob at the front lug, and the trigger guard,
jig for the barrel, another for the trigger guard (you do not close the trigger housing
JohnMOhio
04-21-2023, 10:00
I started to laugh when I read how bad the recoil was on the M1 carbine.
Yup, there was a lot of myth repeated. But the Korecoms did have thick jackets while our guys froze their toes off. M1 carbine recoil; I started to laugh long before that. My sole source of information is from a retired marine. Twenty rd mag (boot camp). 19 of them went up in the air. People think the .308 is a lighter rd. than the 30-06. I beg to differ. It kicks.
Being a half step behind, we had to come up with a DM rifle in a hurry and the M14 was available. It made a more than satisfactory DMR from all I've heard. Not quite capable of the accuracy of an AR based rifle but certainly a lot better than some of its competitors, the PSL rifles come to mind, and it was on hand. It says something for the rifle that though its being phased out in favor of newer AR based weapons its still providing excellent service everywhere its deployed.
Tests done on winter clothing worn by the ChiComs have shown that the .30 carbine did indeed penetrate it easily at any normal range of engagement, and penetrated steel helmets out to 150 - 200 yards depending on the helmet and angle of impact.
I wondered if they ever tested that and sure enough they did.
Johnny P
04-22-2023, 08:34
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