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S.A. Boggs
11-19-2023, 11:40
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Sam

dogtag
11-19-2023, 03:00
A nice SP1

Mark in Ottawa
11-20-2023, 06:30
About 25 years ago we visited Israel and on the first day, we took a walk along the Tel Aviv waterfront. There were two young women walking in front of us and I commented to my wife that they could have been our daughters - both about 19 years old, both wearing jeans, both wearing coloured T shirts and both wearing sneakers. The only difference is that both of them were also wearing M16s. A few days later, we were having dinner at an outdoor restaurant on the Sea of Galilee and I said to my wife that if anybody popped a champagne cork, she should be ready to hit the floor because I had counted 18 people in several groups (all in uniform) who were having dinner and had put their assault rifles on the floor under the table.

Allen
11-20-2023, 07:23
I can definitely understand the need for the guns but not long guns vs pistols. Perhaps the thoughts are "look, I'm armed, go away", but wearing a pistol on a holster would do the same and be more handy if SHTF.

Maybe they really like M-16's ?

I suppose everyone there is a soldier on standby---the same thing the Japs allegedly said of us during WW2 "There's a gun behind every blade of grass".

Former Cav
11-20-2023, 11:09
May God Bless them and watch over them!

S.A. Boggs
11-20-2023, 11:27
May God Bless them and watch over them!

Amen!
Sam

dogtag
11-20-2023, 03:17
I agree about the pistols. Easier and a lot quicker to get into action.

Mark in Ottawa
11-21-2023, 06:44
I agree about the pistols. Easier and a lot quicker to get into action.

I think that the regulation is that when a soldier is on leave, he or she must carry their service weapon and a couple of full mags. For most soldiers, the service weapon would not be a handgun. It would appear that this applies even if they are not in uniform

Allen
11-21-2023, 06:55
I think that the regulation is that when a soldier is on leave, he or she must carry their service weapon and a couple of full mags. For most soldiers, the service weapon would not be a handgun. It would appear that this applies even if they are not in uniform

That is MY bad on the pistol comment. I didn't realize the women were soldiers.

It would seem though that Israel has learned it's lesson about strict gun ownership and citizens trained to operate a gun is now welcomed.

https://reason.com/2023/10/13/israel-eases-guns-restrictions-amidst-security-failures/

dogtag
11-22-2023, 04:20
How do we know these Women are Soldiers ?

I know nothing of their gun laws.

JohnMOhio
11-26-2023, 08:36
Just the latest fashion accessory.

Art
11-29-2023, 12:00
How do we know these Women are Soldiers ?

I know nothing of their gun laws.

Israel has mandatory compulsory military conscription. Everyone reports for duty when they turn 18. This requires 2 1/2 years active duty for men and 2 years for women. After that an Israeli citizen is assigned to a reserve unit until the age of 40. Israel called up vast numbers of reservists after the Oct. 7 massacre and many overseas who were not called up returned to their units anyway.

Any Israeli carrying an M16 is either active or a reservist, in uniform or not.

Israeli gun laws are actually very strict, and unlike ours enforced equally strictly, especially against criminals. Unfortunately criminals in this country caught with guns are seldom prosecuted for gun offenses, especially in the "socialist" states and cities where gun crimes by street criminals are routinely plea bargained down to lesser non gun offenses.

The firearms in the Kibbutzes are kept in arms rooms and most of the victims (remember they were all reservists) were not able to get to their weapons in time and fled to their safe rooms which in this case did not help much with 2,500 Hamas butchers swarming over the border. I read that in at least one case though, the security officer who was in this case a woman, realized something out of the ordinary was up very quickly, got everybody up, unlocked the arms room, distributed weapons and those people actually held off their attackers "until the cavalry arrived."

JimF
11-30-2023, 07:09
[QUOTE=Art;655797]Israel has mandatory compulsory military conscription. Everyone reports for duty when they turn 18. . . . . .[QUOTE]

Years ago, I remember reading that Dwight Eisenhower strongly suggested that we here, in the U.S., adopt that very same ethic!

Of course, it came to nothing!

Allen
11-30-2023, 07:19
Here, males are supposed to register for the Selective Service at the age of 18 but even that isn't enforced any longer.