View Full Version : Interesting statistics tonight
JohnMOhio
12-23-2023, 04:18
There are 4 members and 2,266 guests. Wonder how many members are here but not signed in.
I didn't realise the non contributors numbered so many.
The political forum rarely sees a new thread, and the
gun-talk isn't that much better.
The board has known busier times.
barretcreek
12-24-2023, 01:11
2000+ Feds, UN, CCP and NGO trolls eavesdropping?
JohnMOhio
12-24-2023, 02:37
I do think a part of the membership not on board is due to the holiday. However, if you folks are not aware of it, the figures I quoted can be found at the bottom list of our Forums. I usually check it each time after I sign in to see who from the membership is online.
If you look at the membership number and compare it to the one for active members, it amounts to about 3% with something to contribute. Might add that the discussions that were very common concerning a firearms history based on serial number and stock markings is pretty well gone. The exception seems to be a new member might be asking for info on a recent purchase or someone trying to establish a value before they purchase or to sell off one from their collection.
The heated discussions are all absent. Those were the ones with strongly different views. I suppose they have come to their conclusive end over the last 10 to 15 years. Nothing to discuss anymore on the specifics of collecting and the heritage of the firearm. Although the discussions were heated, as a by stander, I found them not only entertaining but informative and exciting. Possibly we have become to civilized.
Hope you fellow posters remember some of the "good ole days."
Phloating Phlasher
12-24-2023, 03:26
Most of the "guests" are simply search Bots.
Also posts pop up sometimes from folks who have been members for several years but posted only a few times, like under 30-40 times total in 5 - 10 years; or old time members who were once very active who now only post selectively on certain forums.
It would be nice if some of the sometimes posters would post more often on the gun forums but it's a free country after all....
Personally, I can't see the point of being on a forum
and not joining in. I guess if you don't join in means
you have nothing to say. How boring is that ?
Personally I don't believe the numbers, at least some of the time. I've seen the guest numbers fluctuate from around 2,000 to 4,000 in just a day or so. Sometimes I see only one or two members. When I hit the refresh button I see 7 or 10 members. Also, the daily "active members" numbers go up and down with no one getting banned or joining. Some guest never log off I would assume. If not then maybe their shortcut or previous visit keeps showing up as being logged on.
Overall, sure, we'll always have more guest (lurkers) than members viewing but I feel the system has a glitch at times.
One thing that concerns me, just a bit, is how dead the specific gun forums are. The Christmas Eve I posted an interesting (to me) video on the Swedish Model 1896 Mausers. I actually thought about where to post it for a while because I figured if I posted it here it would get more view than on the Mauser forum. Well the right place for it was the Mauser forum where its gotten 18 views 2 or 3 of which are probably mine form correcting stuff on it. I can't help but believe that posted here it would get more looks.
One thing that concerns me, just a bit, is how dead the specific gun forums are. The other day I posted an interesting video on the Swedish Model 1896 Mausers. I actually thought about where to post it for a while because I figured if I posted it here it would get more view than on the Mauser forum. Well the right place for it was the Mauser forum where its gotten 18 views 2 or 3 of which are probably mine form correcting stuff on it. I can't help but believe that posted here it would get more looks.
"The times, they are a changing".
Guns of our era are mostly gone and our era is vanishing/dying as well. Young people have no place to shoot,. Few have interest or places to hunt. Guns of the newer breed are just for protection so the history, the workmanship, the quality, the design, etc has little interest.
Kids and young adults mostly associate todays guns as being lightweight, will shoot millions of times w/o reloading, available in pink, made of pot metal and tupperware.
Many of us old farts already know what we need or want to know about our guns and guns of our times. The newer generations can refer to literature or YouTube videos if they have questions. A new Glock will probably last them a lifetime due to simplicity and the fact it will probably never be shot.
Guns now represent politics.
Our generation is dying off.
. . . . . .Guns of the newer breed are just for protection so the history, the workmanship, the quality, the design, etc has little interest. . . . . . .Our generation is dying off.
In addition to that, when I look through the Rifleman magazine, all I see are ads for SUBTLE ?offensive? use of guns now, though they scream ?defensive?! (All plastic and aluminum!)
The pictured guns AND the males who are holding them, look like military ?wanna-bees? . . . .or Ninja warriors!
When I was hunting . . . .and now when I go to the range . . . . I never see the need for ?nite sights?, or ?range finders?, folding stocks, etc., or ANY of the equipment that a military would require . . . .yet that is what is advertised in these so-called ?sporting? magazines!
Mark in Ottawa
12-26-2023, 02:33
"The times, they are a changing".
Guns of our era are mostly gone and our era is vanishing/dying as well. Young people have no place to shoot,. Few have interest or places to hunt. Guns of the newer breed are just for protection so the history, the workmanship, the quality, the design, etc has little interest.
Kids and young adults mostly associate todays guns as being lightweight, will shoot millions of times w/o reloading, available in pink, made of pot metal and tupperware.
Many of us old farts already know what we need or want to know about our guns and guns of our times. The newer generations can refer to literature or YouTube videos if they have questions. A new Glock will probably last them a lifetime due to simplicity and the fact it will probably never be shot.
Guns now represent politics.
Our generation is dying off.
I won't knock pink rifles. My daughter bought one for my then 13 year old grand daughter. She is mechanically adept and within 10 minutes was reloading the single shot, bolt action rifle without looking at either the box of cartridges or the rifle itself, doing it all by feel and keeping her eye on the target.
Young people have no place to shoot...
There are hundreds of indoor ranges that young or seniors can go to shoot. If you want to shoot it can be expensive. I use a indoor range that charges $20/hour.
My real range is a small (uninhabited) island on a 30,000 acre lake.
JohnMOhio
12-27-2023, 10:57
The info presented by you all is representative of what we all have seen in one form or another. However, the emphasis seems to be the Black Rifle that the younger generations flock to. What we old timers (60 to 80 year olds) have to do is this, when at the range and one of these youngsters are there, offer them the opportunity to shoot an 03 or Grand or the M1 Carbine. If you have any of the other WW2 rifles, offer the same opportunity to try them. Same with a pistol. If into archery, let them try that basic bow you have with out all the cams and sights on them.
We can't get them interested if they don't have a chance to try something new that is old. Challenge them.
The info presented by you all is representative of what we all have seen in one form or another. However, the emphasis seems to be the Black Rifle that the younger generations flock to. What we old timers (60 to 80 year olds) have to do is this, when at the range and one of these youngsters are there, offer them the opportunity to shoot an 03 or Grand or the M1 Carbine. If you have any of the other WW2 rifles, offer the same opportunity to try them. Same with a pistol. If into archery, let them try that basic bow you have with out all the cams and sights on them.
We can't get them interested if they don't have a chance to try something new that is old. Challenge them.
The young people I see at the range, and I'm going everyone under 40 here, are almost all "black rifle" folks and their rifles almost always have some sort of optic. Even a lot of the bolt actions have that "tactical" look. A buddy of mine just bought a very tactical looking Henry lever gun. A lot of the kids haven't the faintest idea of how to use iron sights on a rifle.
The good news is there are still lots of guys who bring their kids to the range.
Anyone with a nice mil surp still draws attention and my club has bullsey matches from the bench for vintage military rifles regularly.
Every time there's a hit WWII movie interest in getting an M1 increases but unfortunately the cost of a good M1 is now way out of a lot of peoples budget. In fact that goes for a lot of really good condition mi surps, especially the USGI ones. Some can still be found at a decent price. I was checking out Swedish Mausers the other day and pretty nice ones can still be had for under $700.00, but you do have to shop for a deal like that.
You Tube has lots of videos on vintage mil surp rifles many produced by younger shooters, unfortunately some of those folks could use a tutorial not just on the weapons history but how it actually works.
I guess my point is that there isn't a lack of shooters they just shoot different stuff for the most part. A decent number do, however, have some interest in the vintage stuff. Our son is a good example, he owns two M1 rifles, one he wanted as a graduation present form high school. He now owns two of them. However, his recreational rifle shooting is almost all with the weapon he carried in the military, a civilianized semi auto M4. Nice gun and very accurate but like most of the guys here it isn't my cup of tea for recreation.
The last time I went to my club to shoot (Some years back),
of the 12 benches on the 100 yard line, eleven were occupied
by guys with "Black Rifles". I took the only vacant bench and
proceeded to shoot my 71 Mauser. No one seemed interested
in what was causing the blue smoke.
I have to admit my club had been invaded by louts from two
other clubs closed down for failing to clean out their berms,
The influx of their rif raf is why I resigned my membership.
Phloating Phlasher
01-02-2024, 04:55
Balmer, Marylann is celebrating under 300 Murders annually. The "Only Had 260".
Let That sink in.
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