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dogtag
01-15-2024, 08:13
He was captain of Blue crew.
Captain Osborne is taking over his command,
but he is the captain of Gold crew so how can that be ?
Can't command both, so Is Blue more important than Gold ?
It's a puzzlement.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12966403/Navy-fires-nuclear-submarine-captain-loss-confidence-ability-command-investigation-launched.html

barretcreek
01-16-2024, 06:38
Blue CO relieved because boat is not up to snuff. Gold CO transferred to fix it.

Just my opinion.

dogtag
01-16-2024, 07:34
Blue CO relieved because boat is not up to snuff. Gold CO transferred to fix it.

Just my opinion.

That leaves Gold crew with no Captain.

Oyaji
01-17-2024, 06:51
That leaves Gold crew with no Captain.

Maybe the Gold Crew XO "fleeted up" and assumed command.

blackhawknj
01-19-2024, 03:48
When you have an officers' corps that is twice the size of what you really need it's easy to find replacements. Sea command is necessary for punching one's ticket, that in turn produces an attitude that looking good is more important than doing good. That in turn leads to seeing subordinates as mere stepping stones in career progression. And subordinates who find all sorts of ways to sabotage a superior's career. I note that among the finding's of the investigation into the loss of theBonhomme Richard was that
"Maintenance records were falsified." Old habits die hard, the Vietnam era pencil whipping of records is still with us.
Just saw a news story, said he was arrested for DUI.

Phloating Phlasher
01-19-2024, 05:44
Maybe the Gold Crew XO "fleeted up" and assumed command.

THIS^^^
It's bad enough they dumped "The Skipper". But bringing in a "stranger" will make it massively worse. At least this is just "swapping CO.'s.

JohnMOhio
01-19-2024, 06:53
In SAC, you either were up to snuff or you got fired and replaced. The big thing was an unannounced Operational Readiness Inspection. The inspection team covered everything from paperwork to aircraft launching and simulated bomb runs. And of course these bomb runs were scored for accuracy. Also there were simulated but unannounced test of security. The aircraft I was fortunate enough to work on was the B-52. What part? The radar, bombing and navigation computer system.

Plain and simple, I don't know of any base commander that was given a second chance. Heads rolled in those areas that were given a failing grade.

dogtag
01-20-2024, 06:55
Hell, I'd have thought the skipper deserved a little slack.
Getting sloshed once in a while ain't that bad.

Oyaji
01-20-2024, 07:13
Hell, I'd have thought the skipper deserved a little slack.
Getting sloshed once in a while ain't that bad.

Sadly it is in today's military. Just look at how many officer, senior enlisted and EM clubs have been shutdown throughout the country and overseas.

barretcreek
01-21-2024, 01:39
Compare and contrast this with the American woman connected to the US embassy in London. She was at a function at a US base, pulled out onto the public road and killed an English boy on his motorcycle. No breath test or anything. Laws for thee not me.

Phloating Phlasher
01-21-2024, 01:41
In SAC, you either were up to snuff or you got fired and replaced. The big thing was an unannounced Operational Readiness Inspection. The inspection team covered everything from paperwork to aircraft launching and simulated bomb runs. And of course these bomb runs were scored for accuracy.

We once had one of those in the RAF back in the day of "4-minute Warnings", but from a Ministry Stuffed Shirt.
He wanted the entire (photo-reconnaissance/ air cartography) unit airborne in 10 minutes! NO EXCUSES!
PR-7 Canberras use the RR Avon RA-7, they do not warm up from cold well. Or quickly. There's a bug on the gauges till that 90Wt oil gets to temp & pressure "no sudden, large, or full throttle inputs".
We made maps & took pictures, obviously Full Squadron QRA "Scrambles" weren't part of our expected repertoire.
I SAID NO EXCUSES.
OK, , , boss. (note pause).
We warmed them up (as best we could) while taxiing (against QR).
We, the unit, lost one engine permanently & damaged 4 others. The one that lost the engine lost it on takeoff. The exercise was cancelled by someone wearing scrambled way above out pay grade & we never did another one. Fully half the unit was down for maintenance.
We never saw or heard from The Shirt ever again.

Oyaji
01-21-2024, 03:55
Compare and contrast this with the American woman connected to the US embassy in London. She was at a function at a US base, pulled out onto the public road and killed an English boy on his motorcycle. No breath test or anything. Laws for thee not me.

Diplomatic immunity, I suspect.....

dogtag
01-21-2024, 04:41
Diplomatic immunity, I suspect.....

Yes, plus she fled back to USA