View Full Version : Why the English language is so hard to learn
Some of these I hadn't thought of.
JB White
10-23-2024, 12:00
Once you can read it then you’ve read it.
Just don’t confuse read with reed or read with red.
They raised the barn. They razed the barn.
Mark in Ottawa
10-23-2024, 11:21
The well-known linguistic joke is what is this word? "Ghoti"
The answer is "Fish"
Derivation is a follows: F sound from the word "enough"; i sound from the word "women"; and sh sound from the word "station"
It is apparently attributed to the British play-write, George Bernard Shaw
Well, I have seen 2 year old children that could speak in English! And have seen 25 years olds that cannot speak English!
"I ain't got not seen the train a coming."
Well, I have seen 2 year old children that could speak in English! And have seen 25 years olds that cannot speak English!
Right. A lot depends upon the individual.
Some, who speak slang or jive actually don't speak one language then there are those that apply themselves like Melania Trump who can speak five languages fluently: Slovenian, English, French, Italian, and German.
Phloating Phlasher
10-26-2024, 05:09
I've asked this previously.
What exactly is "English"?
Beeb Beeb Ceeb British?
There are many forms of "English"!
Wolar! Bist true dat, iffn deys Dissnt cuz deys cassent, ur because dey wussent iffn deys cust, ust? Me ole blabber, Bist gert lush innitt!
That's also a form of "English":eusa_dance:
I've asked this previously.
What exactly is "English"?
Beeb Beeb Ceeb British?
There are many forms of "English"!
Wolar! Bist true dat, iffn deys Dissnt cuz deys cassent, ur because dey wussent iffn deys cust, ust? Me ole blabber, Bist gert lush innitt!
That's also a form of "English":eusa_dance:
Huh?
Speak English
Phloating Phlasher
10-27-2024, 02:49
That IS English!
Albeit a regional dialect of it, but it IS "English"!
There are actually several "dictionaries of "Brizzle" to English", mostly humorous & tongue in cheek!
There are many of them too.
Its surprising how someone from "Tha Sauf Wess" (Devon Cornwall & Bristol, pronounced "Brizzle") The South West, can have so much difficulty communicating with someone else from say "T' Mitlanns" (The Midlands is the central part of England, bordered by Wales, Northern England, Southern England and the North Sea.) The Midlands correspond broadly to the early-medieval kingdom of Mercia, and later became important in the Industrial Revolution of the 18th and 19th centuries. They are now split into two official regions, the West Midlands and East Midlands. The Midlands' biggest city, Birmingham, is the second-largest in the United Kingdom. Other important cities include Coventry, Derby, Leicester, Lincoln, Nottingham, Stoke-on-Trent, Wolverhampton, and Worcester.) as they're both speaking "English":1948:
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JB White
10-27-2024, 10:08
Many years ago a friend phoned me from the Midlands. Black country. Listening to the answering machine (told you it was years ago) my kids were staring in awe.
Had to rewind and listen again to be sure my translation was correct.
That’s when the kids were telling each other “It is! It’s him!”
Then my oldest said, “Dad, we didn’t know you were friends with Ozzie Osbourne!!!”
Phloating Phlasher
10-28-2024, 11:17
BWHAHAHaHahaha!
It could have been worse! He might have been a Cockney!
Had a Bull with the trouble so I clipped 'er round the lugole & she went down the apples.
The Bill nicked me & I'm up in front of the beak.
JB White
11-02-2024, 07:34
Cockney. Years ago I went see Rex Harrison in the lead role in My Fair Lady. Elisa Doolittle’s accent had to be cleaned up just so the American audience could follow the story. Even then I could hear people whispering “What? What did she say?”
And when a Yorkie tells a joke, just laugh when he laughs.
Phloating Phlasher
11-02-2024, 12:26
I get a good laugh when there's some news item from the U.K. & they get the "person on the street" interview.
WITH SUBTITLES!
:eusa_dance:
Johnny P
11-03-2024, 07:47
The hardest part to learning the English language today is the environment that it is taught in.
Phloating Phlasher
11-03-2024, 07:23
please explain.
JB White
11-04-2024, 05:07
Aside from regional dialects, variable accents, and common slang differences in different regions of the US.
You can easily get into trouble and not know why.
Then you have differences in how people outside the US pronounce the language. Folks with, let’s just say, a Spanish speaking background roll their R’s. While people from the Subcontinent roll their L’s. All the while you’re making mental translations just trying to carry on a casual conversation.
“I met a fellow totally pissed and needed to help him off the pavement”
Did you meet an angry man and escort him off the street? Or….
Did you come across a drunk man and help him off the sidewalk?
All depends upon if you’re in the USA or the UK.
That’s just the very tip that of that iceberg!
Johnny P
11-04-2024, 08:32
please explain.
Glad to. Nearby town built a multi-million dollar high school to consolidate all the smaller schools and hardly a week goes by that it doesn't make the news for a disruption of classes in one form or another. Recently one student pulling a gun on another.
Sound normal school environment to you?
Phloating Phlasher
11-04-2024, 08:29
Unfortunately yes.
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Submitted for your consideration.
"An American is visiting Great Britain & decides to visit a local pub for a pint. Something he’s always wanted to do.
He gets into conversation with a local & the local asks hem this riddle:
“ A Young lady is taking a stroll along the pavement to the park. At first she meets a pedestrian, walking the opposite way. He politely doffs his hat & says:
“Good morning! Isn’t it a beautiful morning”?
“Yes its splendid”!
She replies.
After a while she passes a bicyclist & he also says:
“Good morning! Isn’t it a beautiful morning”?
“Yes its splendid”!
She replies.
Further still she chances to meet an equestrian, He politely doffs his hat & says:
“Good morning! Isn’t it a beautiful morning”?
“Yes its splendid”!
She replies.
& Now for the riddle which of the three was she familiar with?
The American thinks for a while & eventually admits he can’t tell.
“Why, its simple, old chap,: The horseman knew her”!
After returning stateside he’s in the bar with a buddy, who asks him:
“What are the Brits like”?
“They’re strange, their humor is weird”!
“How so”?
Well the y told me this riddle & I still don’t get it.
“Some Dame is walking. Along the way she meets this dude walking the other way. He says:
“Hi”!
She says
“Hi back at ya”!
Then she meets a biker,
He says:
“Hi”!
She says
“Hi back at ya”!
Finally she meets a cowboy,
He says:
“Hi”!
She says
“Hi back at ya”!
& The riddle was which dude did the dame know?
His buddy thinks & gives up.
“Well! Which one was it she knew”?
“Beats the hell outta me! The answer was ‘Horse crap”!"
JohnMOhio
11-08-2024, 08:47
Speaking a different parts of the US. Grocery bag. Others call it a sack or a poke is often used.
Did someone say "different parts of the U.S."?
And the rules don't always apply.
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