The literature seems to indicate both small and large ring are extremely strong. The 8mm can be loaded quite potent but the US market dials it down a lot.
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The literature seems to indicate both small and large ring are extremely strong. The 8mm can be loaded quite potent but the US market dials it down a lot.
You are right, th eUS commercial 8x57 loads are wimpy.
My reloads are quite a bit hotter than US commercial and I get no signs of pressure with either the Argentine or the Persian load.
I shot the Argentine at the vintage military rifle silhouette match for the first time last Saturday. It did OK--31/40. I need to shoot it a little more and possibly refine the load.
You're going to have to open up another thread with a different title; there is no travesty associated with the way these rifles are shooting!
Here are the results of the match last weekend. There was some pretty good shooting going on there. I was shooting my new scoped Argentine 1909 for the first time in the match and scored a 31. I believe the old girl can do better with a little more practice.
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The Swiss did respectably, but were bested by the Swedish Mauser shooters. I believe that this is due, at least in part, to sights that are allowed on the Swedish Mauser in the match that were not actually "as issued" sights.
David Tubb used to sell a drill bit attachment for cartridge uniformity. I didn't see it on his website; friends who used it say their group patterns tightened up a fair amount.
When you say cartridge uniformity...did it smooth out the bullet tip?
It was a concentricity (spelling?)/uniformity tool for the tip, IIRC. It didn't necessarily make the bullet more accurate so much as it made all the cartridges the same thus making the groups MPI more 'average'.
I'll look into that tool. Thanks, Shooter.
Thanks Guff...that is a pretty impressive collection of reloading tools.
Continuing to refine a load for this rifle. Made a quick trip to the range yesterday to do some test firing...this was my best load.
@100 yards, about 1".
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Calfed, thank you, somewhere in that group is a picture of a 1943 Mauser action that is in the process of being welded back together, no travesty, had the receiver been in one piece I would have never had the opportunity. The original intent of the smith that cut/shortened it had a plan, he wanted a short action, there was nothing suspect about his abilities, he just ran out of time.
F. Guffey
Calfed:
Current issue has an decent article about the Persian Mausers. One glaring mistake: by using Ball as a reference, Scarlata does imply the rifles manufactured in Iran were made at a town called "Mosalsalsazi" but which is, in fact, not a city. Instead, that word translates to 'machine-gun factory'. All rifles mfg' in Iran were made in downtown Tehran at the 'machine-gun factory' which was set up with the assistance of the Czechs.
http://www.tactical-life.com/exclusives/persian-mauser/
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...1916Mauser.jpg
rifles like the one you found do have one thing in common, might be hard to swallow, but still it is there. Years ago i found a GEW98 action, had trigger guard and bolt but that was it, so wth, decided to make a legacy gun for grandson. my deal with him was he got the rifle when he did something above and beyond, finishing high school DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA, HE WAS EXPECTED TO FINISH HIGH SCHOOL. Not with standing appointed to National Honor Society would do it, a college scholarship he worked for would do it, graduate from Marine Corps boot camp with a stripe would qualify, any boot camp with a stripe would qualify. but just being a good average kid, would not by itself qualify for this rifle
CUSTOM WALNUT STOCK WITH BRAZILIAN HEART WOOD SPACER AND BIRDSEYEMAPLE FOREND
GLASS BEDDED
SATIN FINISH BLUED STEEL
GENTRY 3 POSITION SAFETY REPLACED MAUSER SAFETY
SCHILLEN 3006 BARREL, WITH ALL APPROPRIATE WORK DONE FOR ACCURACY
TIMNEY TRIGGER
WEAVER 6 POWER (FIFTY YEAR OLD REDONE SCOPE), WEAVER STEEL BASES
SHOOTS SUBMINUTE GROUP AT 100 YARDS
Now I did most of the work, not barrel or working on chamber that was done elsewhere, but all woodwork and bedding done by me. and damn if this thing dont shoot.
i built this thing ten year ago and my oldest grandson has yet to do anything but hang around, does he want it?*** you bet**
but he knows grand pas deal, if he does not get it by work it goes to the North Carolina Junior Rifle team for auction for funds
or to a un named other grandchild, have three more grandkids
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Pelago, for some reason I no longer receive notices when my posts have received answers, so I'm just seeing your post above.
That is a fine-looking, fine-shooting rifle. Congrats on a nice job and I hope you grandson wises up and earns the rights to it.
Steve
thanks for the kind words, unfortunately the grandson that i had hoped would earn it, has just not done much of anything. seems content to be nothing, maybe some day he will wake up, but there are others, and my current legacy project will be
Mauser 98 small ring action (1915 Erfure armory)
6.5X55
gentry three position safety
shilen barrel, moderate wt, will not be a feather weight, but a good sit on stand gun
custom stock
timney trigger
an older weaver scope, have many to chose from might be a 6power wide angle have couple to chose from
the action seems to marry up with this caliber well
and if none of my grandsons or granddaughters accomplish something that is above board
I probably will donate all the lagacy rifles to the NC Juniors to raffle off