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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Bold Print, Fine Print

    https://secure.winred.com/tmagac/ele...ense-fund-cond

    OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND!
    President Trump needs YOU to step up to make sure we have the resources to protect the integrity of the Election!



    60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.

    40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.

    Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.


    In short, unless you donate a grandkid's college tuition check, it goes 60% to Trump's PAC and 40% to the RNC political slush fund. Not to contest the election.

    It's a telling bait-and-switch.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11266

    #2
    kinda like the BLM donations go to the DNC??

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      Originally posted by lyman
      kinda like the BLM donations go to the DNC??
      Have a link or is that just something circulating in your corner of the internet? I'm showing you the Trump link, the real deal. That's the bar.

      Added:

      What's telling about the bait-and-switch is that they're not really planning on contesting the election beyond superficial stuff that won't get far in court. Not to say they won't take a judicial gift but rather just that they've done the math. Still they'll take your money.
      Last edited by togor; 11-12-2020, 10:04.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11266

        #4
        we have posted this before,


        I can dig it up later if you must have it, however this discussion has been had,



        remember BLM has not office or home base,

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by lyman
          we have posted this before,


          I can dig it up later if you must have it, however this discussion has been had,



          remember BLM has not office or home base,
          Yes please dig it up. And remember that it has to be something from them, not just claim a guy made in his blog. Winred is telling you in the fine print that your money doesn't do what they say it does in the bold. Thank you.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11266

            #6
            Originally posted by togor
            Yes please dig it up. And remember that it has to be something from them, not just claim a guy made in his blog. Winred is telling you in the fine print that your money doesn't do what they say it does in the bold. Thank you.
            you don't make the rules here, remember, we can post whatever we like as long as it falls in the rules,

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11266

              #7
              quick search, I had a minute

              The current wave of protests across the United States has spurred an enormous surge in donations to Black Lives Matter and other racial justice and civil rights organizations, but the boost in fundraising has also brought increased scrutiny, calls for greater transparency, and a flurry of conspiracy theories about the organization’s spending.



              BLM donations go to ACT BLU,



              ACT Blue directs the money to D platform candidates,

              with a 4% (roughly) fee,



              note news article says BLM goes to BLM, but the wiki page (from ACT blue) says it goes towards campaigns not specific donations to specific persons or groups,

              several quick web sites via a search are quick to explain the process of how act blue works like paypal or similar channeling the cash, and making a %, while not accepting funds to the company and redistributing,

              but are much more vague on who gets what, and what percentage,


              does that help?


              and yes, the R's started a similar business on a similar model

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                From your link:

                One thing Black Lives Matter wants to make clear: despite what you may have seen in viral social media posts by right-wing activists, none of this money is going to the Democratic National Committee.
                BlackLivesMatter.com uses the platform ActBlue to process donations. ActBlue is popular among Democratic politicians and progressive nonprofits, and a similar service, WinRed, is increasingly utilized by Republicans, but neither platform has any control over how funds are allocated.
                So the answer is.....they use ActBlue to process donations, but the money goes where they say it goes.

                So no, donations to BLM are NOT ADVERTISED IN THE FINE PRINT as going to a Biden or DNC-controlled PAC, nor do they go there.

                As for the rules, of course posting rules are one thing, and "meeting the bar" of a persuasive argument is another. I was referring to the later. In any case BLM doesn't use the find print that Trump does, so no bait-and-switch with BLM.

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  https://secure.winred.com/tmagac/ele...ense-fund-cond

                  OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND!
                  President Trump needs YOU to step up to make sure we have the resources to protect the integrity of the Election!



                  60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.

                  40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.

                  Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC’s Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000.


                  In short, unless you donate a grandkid's college tuition check, it goes 60% to Trump's PAC and 40% to the RNC political slush fund. Not to contest the election.

                  It's a telling bait-and-switch.
                  Why not, the Communist Chinese has and continues to buy slo Joe's affections, now that's a high class act to buy! Wonder how popular Chinese food is with slo Joe?
                  Sam

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11266

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    From your link:



                    So the answer is.....they use ActBlue to process donations, but the money goes where they say it goes.

                    So no, donations to BLM are NOT ADVERTISED IN THE FINE PRINT as going to a Biden or DNC-controlled PAC, nor do they go there.

                    As for the rules, of course posting rules are one thing, and "meeting the bar" of a persuasive argument is another. I was referring to the later. In any case BLM doesn't use the find print that Trump does, so no bait-and-switch with BLM.
                    keep reading, the particulars (depending on which group is talking) are vague,
                    vague enough to give doubt,


                    and honestly, quite likely the same with Winred,



                    hence, another need for some campaign reform,

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